Total world wide electricity generation is 17,400,000,000,000 watts, total battery energy storage 57,000,000,000, pumped hydro adds another 17,900,000,000 do the math and you can see why storage ain’t gonna get us there, at least not with existing technologies. The recent outages in Spain and Portugal were the direct result of unreliable renewable energy.
Total world wide electricity generation is 17,400,000,000,000 watts, total battery energy storage 57,000,000,000, pumped hydro adds another 17,900,000,000 do the math and you can see why storage ain’t gonna get us there
Fun fact: the current amount of storage is not the maximum amount possible. You’re conflating current capacity with maximum capacity possible, which is idiotic at best and deliberately misleading at worst.
You might as well say that it’s impossible for me to ever roller skate anywhere due to not currently owning any skates.
at least not with existing technologies
First of all, that’s not true. Second of all, even if it was, that’s irrelevant as new and improved technology is constantly being developed in spite of luddites like yourself trying their hardest to make it stop.
The recent outages in Spain and Portugal were the direct result of unreliable renewable energy.
Nope. I ask again: don’t you ever get tired of lying all the time?
@Viking_Hippie No I’m not conflating anything, what we have NOW determines how long the grid can tolerate under production and that is about five minutes. But wind might not blow for days, the sun is on average not in the sky 12 hours out of the day and the majority of those hours it is at an angle that makes less than peak production possible. But even if we used every gram of lithium we have we couldn’t produce enough storage. There are some alternatives, vanadium flow batteries, but again vanadium is expensive and in short supply, or sodium ion batteries, here we’ve probably got adequate materials, but sodium has a two step discharge curve that make the electronics more expensive. In short we don’t PRESENTLY have enough storage and it is doubtful that we will ever have enough to last overnight.
Fixed it for you.
Right back at you, “infowarrior” 🙄
Total world wide electricity generation is 17,400,000,000,000 watts, total battery energy storage 57,000,000,000, pumped hydro adds another 17,900,000,000 do the math and you can see why storage ain’t gonna get us there, at least not with existing technologies. The recent outages in Spain and Portugal were the direct result of unreliable renewable energy.
Fun fact: the current amount of storage is not the maximum amount possible. You’re conflating current capacity with maximum capacity possible, which is idiotic at best and deliberately misleading at worst.
You might as well say that it’s impossible for me to ever roller skate anywhere due to not currently owning any skates.
First of all, that’s not true. Second of all, even if it was, that’s irrelevant as new and improved technology is constantly being developed in spite of luddites like yourself trying their hardest to make it stop.
Nope. I ask again: don’t you ever get tired of lying all the time?
@Viking_Hippie Not lying. It is a well known if not widely admitted to fact.
@Viking_Hippie No I’m not conflating anything, what we have NOW determines how long the grid can tolerate under production and that is about five minutes. But wind might not blow for days, the sun is on average not in the sky 12 hours out of the day and the majority of those hours it is at an angle that makes less than peak production possible. But even if we used every gram of lithium we have we couldn’t produce enough storage. There are some alternatives, vanadium flow batteries, but again vanadium is expensive and in short supply, or sodium ion batteries, here we’ve probably got adequate materials, but sodium has a two step discharge curve that make the electronics more expensive. In short we don’t PRESENTLY have enough storage and it is doubtful that we will ever have enough to last overnight.