• TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    18 hours ago

    As Russia faces international isolation, a few thousand people from countries including Canada, Britain, the United States and parts of Europe are choosing to move there.

    Europe is not a country and Great Britain is also a part of Europe. Brittain just isn’t a part of the European Union anymore. Their island didn’t drift away from the continent. Then the United Kingdom, also known as Great Brittain and Northern Ireland, consists of 4 counties, namely England, Wales, Scotland and the north of Ireland (which they should give back to Ireland). Then there are small weird situations like the City of London within London and the Isle of Man which is a self-governing British Crown Dependency in the Irish Sea.

    So Great Brittain aka. the United Kingdom is a country consisting of several countries and Europe is a continent. The European Union is a union of countries which are most (not all) countries in Europe but not including the UK. It’s not that hard.

    How is the BBC not getting this.

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      “Parts of Europe” implies “other countries.”

      Great Britain is also a part of Europe

      In British usage, “Europe” means the mainland. So it depends on context. If you’re talking geography, that’s one thing. Politics is another. Common usage, something even different (and less precise).

      So Great Brittain aka. the United Kingdom is a country consisting of several countries

      It’s a state consisting of four countries (England, Scotland and Northern Ireland) and a handful of other bits, as you mentioned. The status of the City of London is not autonomous, except for local affairs: it’s still part of England. There were other random parts of England with limited self-governance, such as the stannary towns which had their own Parliament-- the City is a relic of that time.

      How is the BBC not getting this.

      There are lots of important things the BBC doesn’t get, but this is lost in the noise.

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        10 hours ago

        Fine. If Brittain doesn’t want to be a part of Europe anymore, go float to the other side of the pond. Just leave Ireland out of it, they are awesome.

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        The full name is The United Kingdom of Great Brittain and Northern Ireland. Souece

        So the UK includes the north of Ireland but great Brittain does not.

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          Great Britain is the name of the big island in the British Isles. Northern Ireland is a smallish part of the second-biggest island.

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          18 hours ago

          Correct.

          It’s also worth knowing that both Britain and the island of Ireland are both part of the British isles - just to further confuse the situation.

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            So for me the UK and GB are the same, as I personally do not recognize their annexed land in the north of Ireland.

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              But you recognise the annexed land of Wales and Scotland? Interesting.

              I suppose we all draw arbitrary lines somewhere.

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                18 hours ago

                Not really, I do recognize their independant states. However, Scotland did vote to stay, although after brexit they would have voted differently, which they aren’t allowed to do.

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                  So if the unionists outnumber the republicans you’d then be ok with Northern Ireland remaining in “Britain”? The will of the inhabitants and all that.

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                    17 hours ago

                    I’m done with defending against you assuming things I didn’t say.

                    Let me be clear: fuck monarchies, fuck religion, fuck oppression, fuck violence, fuck borders and countries in general, and fuck this dystopian hell hole we’re living in. Now let me enjoy my Sunday morning coffee in peace please. Fuck.