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As Russia faces international isolation, a few thousand people from countries including Canada, Britain, the United States and parts of Europe are choosing to move there.
Europe is not a country and Great Britain is also a part of Europe. Brittain just isn’t a part of the European Union anymore. Their island didn’t drift away from the continent. Then the United Kingdom, also known as Great Brittain and Northern Ireland, consists of 4 counties, namely England, Wales, Scotland and the north of Ireland (which they should give back to Ireland). Then there are small weird situations like the City of London within London and the Isle of Man which is a self-governing British Crown Dependency in the Irish Sea.
So Great Brittain aka. the United Kingdom is a country consisting of several countries and Europe is a continent. The European Union is a union of countries which are most (not all) countries in Europe but not including the UK. It’s not that hard.
How is the BBC not getting this.
“Parts of Europe” implies “other countries.”
Great Britain is also a part of Europe
In British usage, “Europe” means the mainland. So it depends on context. If you’re talking geography, that’s one thing. Politics is another. Common usage, something even different (and less precise).
So Great Brittain aka. the United Kingdom is a country consisting of several countries
It’s a state consisting of four countries (England, Scotland and Northern Ireland) and a handful of other bits, as you mentioned. The status of the City of London is not autonomous, except for local affairs: it’s still part of England. There were other random parts of England with limited self-governance, such as the stannary towns which had their own Parliament-- the City is a relic of that time.
How is the BBC not getting this.
There are lots of important things the BBC doesn’t get, but this is lost in the noise.
Fine. If Brittain doesn’t want to be a part of Europe anymore, go float to the other side of the pond. Just leave Ireland out of it, they are awesome.
Us french have tried for years but the island isn’t moving away fash enough 😔
The UK is different to Great Britain. The terms are not interchangeable.
The full name is The United Kingdom of Great Brittain and Northern Ireland. Souece
So the UK includes the north of Ireland but great Brittain does not.
Great Britain is the name of the big island in the British Isles. Northern Ireland is a smallish part of the second-biggest island.
North of Ireland *
Norn Iron.
Correct.
It’s also worth knowing that both Britain and the island of Ireland are both part of the British isles - just to further confuse the situation.
So for me the UK and GB are the same, as I personally do not recognize their annexed land in the north of Ireland.
But you recognise the annexed land of Wales and Scotland? Interesting.
I suppose we all draw arbitrary lines somewhere.
Hey, what about Cornwall?
Not really, I do recognize their independant states. However, Scotland did vote to stay, although after brexit they would have voted differently, which they aren’t allowed to do.
So if the unionists outnumber the republicans you’d then be ok with Northern Ireland remaining in “Britain”? The will of the inhabitants and all that.
You can’t really expect the BBC of all networks to be nuanced about this thing.
Now, ask them about sizes and colors of dicks…
There is only one size and color, which is big and black. Everyone knows that.
Whenever these morons move to Russia, they improve the average IQs of both countries.
Russians are no stupider, on average, than anyone else. They just have shittier luck regarding the system they’ve been born into.
You can’t fix stupid, but you can laugh when it moves to Russia.
It’s propaganda poisoning all the way down.
The Russians, the Americans, and the Brits are all choking on their version of Nationalist Exceptionalism as all three countries nosedive.
I’m just curious if enough of us will be left over with enough resources to do anything about it
More then just those countries.
Yeah but we (America) and they are the loudest about it.
Have you met many Serbs? And let’s not forget the Israelis.
At the time, he believed Russia offered an attractive alternative: a society built on Christian faith and family values
As the bible says: Give birth to as many children as possible, so that your corrupt leader can send them to war.
You joke, but this is 100% in the Old Testament.
With that claim, I want to know the exact wording. Not because I don’t believe you, but because it’s a great meme!
I’m not entirely sure in the war part, the bible does make it pretty clear the Abrahamic people are totes the best people, so I’m sure it’s in there. But there is a whole lot of breed like rabbits in there. It’s why Islamic and conservative/traditional christians make having babies a core part of their values.
As the bible says: Give birth to as many children as possible, so that your corrupt leader can send them to war.
As Putin himself says.
Russia is the perfect country for the MAGA fucknuts. I’m surprised Ben is not serving as canon fodder on the front. 224 idiot Germans moved to Russia, WTF! Stay there and do not return.
Matter of time. Once they’re no longer useful for the propaganda machine, that is.
That’s right. They should stay there for a bit, get conscripted, and then get killed in Ukraine. Fucking pieces of shit.
One of the few good things russia has done. Voluntarily pulling dumbasses into their own borders.
Hey now, give credit where it’s due. They have been a great recruiter for NATO as well.
And then sent to be mercifully put out of their stupidity by Ukrainian drones.
…or NATO/Ukrainian made tungsten.
This article inspired me to check and Teddy Boy Greg (the disgruntled white power barber with a ton of ridiculous facial tattoos who moved to Russia to get away from what he called “degenerates”) has recently died in Ukraine
White supremacist died fighting Russia’s war against… checks notes… alleged neo-Nazis? Dude wasn’t blessed with an overabundance of critical thinking.
checks notes… alleged neo-Nazis
Allow me to present this handy guide:
Yoinked. Thanks for that.
One of the interesting things about their propaganda style (which unfortunately is spreading elsewhere…) is that they will spin up entirely different conflicting narratives and even have people arguing between them on their platforms. This is because if they stick to just one kind of narrative, it can only find purchase with the particular sort of audience it’s geared to and will probably fail elsewhere. But if they spin up a ton of different narratives from various mouthpieces geared to many different audiences and blast them unceasingly, then there are still plenty of other hooks to potentially catch a listener even if some are definitely flubs. And if there’s mass confusion in what you actually stand for with all sorts of contradictory statements constantly in the churn of being advanced or withdrawn and defended or blasted, then past a certain point people just kind of give up in the face of the background noise and believe whatever they want rather than if everyone were more closely keeping track of the same smaller and simpler narrative. Part of the reason why they have numerous controlled opposition parties.
So to people who hate nazis they indeed target a constant barrage of “WE ARE FIGHTING UKRONAZIS” content as justification. This guy however was part of a different stream pulled in by the presentation of Russia as a stern conservative defender of traditional values against the wokeness of the decadent west.
The barbershop pole on his nose got me every time lmao
White supremacists never are. By definition they are the bottom of the bell curve
Elon etal
Plenty of white nationalists among the domestic elite. It’s practically a prerequisite to join certain social clubs and fraternities.
But white supremacy isn’t just a belief, it’s a goal. Plenty of very smart, savvy, and committed individuals are working overtime to jam their collective boots on our necks.
Yep. Education can shield you from being indoctrinated into white supremacy by cheap propaganda, but if you’re just an asshole that loves oppression, you’ll find your way there anyway.
What a nice patch of sunflowers he’ll make.
I’m entirely in favor of a program that promotes the voluntary exit of xenophobic reactionary cunts from the US, as long as we can come up with some way to not let them return after it inevitably all goes to shit for them.
Ilja Belobragin, general managing partner at Move To Russia, a company which helps foreigners relocate to Russia, says something he frequently hears from his clients is that they “don’t recognise the community around me anymore”.
Some prospective migrants complain about high immigration in their own countries or what they see as declining living standards, he says.
Let’s break this down: The people say they “don’t recognise the community around [them] anymore” because of “high immigration”, so they decide to become an immigrant surrounded by people of a different nationality than them.
As I see it, this is for one specific reason only: I don’t believe it’s the different cultural values from immigration that bothers them (they are literally moving into a wholly foreign culture; although I’m sure the Orthodox church gives some perverse appeal), but I believe they are bothered by ethnicity/skin colour. I believe these people are racists more than they are xenophobes.
I believe, for these people, Russia is a better alternative only because they have a certain perception of white-skinned Russians. I don’t think these people are aware of places like Tuva, or Yakutia, or Chechnya - and I don’t think they would ever visit those places. To say their quiet part out loud, I think these “conservatives” are just people who are white supremacists, moving because it’s a “white country” in their eyes, and thinking all white people have some shared essence. This is how they can justify to themselves being a foreigner in a foreign land. How else could they justify it to themselves?
From what I’ve read in the past, a lot of them are just really homophobic.
Someone who is homophobic has two choices:
- Leave behind everything you own and know to go live as an immigrant in a foreign country where you don’t speak the language or understand the customs.
- Don’t have gay sex.
Gay sex must be really good.
A lot of these people have kids they take with them and usually they claim stuff like the government is teaching gay sex in schools.
Russia’s been running a massive propaganda campaign in Europe and the US for more than a decade. Including slandering the LGBT and trying to associate them with illegal activities, promoting Christian orthodoxy over atheism, depicting Europe as degenerate and failing, demonizing immigrants and trying to frame them as criminals etc.
The people who move to Russia thinking they are upgrading their lives are few according to this article, but I’m still surprised by how these people completely ignored how authoritarian and destitute that country is. Germans moving to Russia thinking it’s the better place to be is a huge propaganda victory for the latter.
“Certainly this will get rid of my urge to hump butt”
We’ll have none of that gay stuff in my house.
Now, where should I hang my framed copy of this?
The quality is so bad that I don’t have to downvote this horrible picture.
…um, does that horse really wear a black wig? Or has its own mane been colored (the tone looks unnatural somehow) and combed forward?
Cheesus I already spent to much time with & thought on this pic. Dang.
they “don’t recognise the community around me anymore”.
I think that’s a narrative implanted in their brains by conservatives: too many brownskinned people, danger danger danger.
Just like Russia deliberately creates the narrative that they offer an alternative, conveniently ignoring the multicultural nature of Russia - and the obvious conflict of becoming an immigrant yourself.
My schadenfreude is through the roof
Schadenfreudegasm
- Not really very different to the promises of great new lives made to people joining ISIS
- Oh the irony of becoming a migrant elsewhere whilst complaining about migrants at home.
Some prospective migrants complain about high immigration in their own countries or what they see as declining living standards, he says.
Utter hypocrisy
Nonono, he is not an immigrant, he is an expat. HUGE difference! Just ask the British pensioners in Spain and southern France!
Ah yes, I know a few of those including a family we grew up with. After moving to Cyprus they became quite the voice about how terribly it was going in the UK. Piss heads
A lot of the Brits in Spain have been leaving because the Spanish have cracked down on tax-dodging, and because Brits lost their freedom of movement in the EU when they voted for Brexit. And the expats are whining like mad about it.
Meanwhile, I know some people who’ve moved to Spain and Portugal, learned the language, assimilated and gotten the passport, instead of living in a soulless monolingual enclave, quaffing Spanish champagne, creeping on their neighbors’ wives and cultivating their melanoma like the Costa del Sol bunch.
If there are that stupid let them.
Imagine being dumb enough to think Texas isn’t conservative enough for you
Ive heard afghanistan is a great alternative for repubes
They might find the Pashto boy-raping culture congenial. And the rule by religious reactionary idiots with guns will feel a bit like back home in Texas.
I don’t think I can
it just constantly boggles my mind how mentally ill people (Leo clearly has some form of mental illness) and truly idiotic people (again, applies to Leo) always seem to have enough money to just blow away like this. Meanwhile intelligent and sane individuals are barely scraping by.
I mean i’m comfortable in life, more than comfortable, but i don’t have “move to another country simply because I hate a particular thing in society” money.
I also think people with the mental caliber of Leo don’t think of consequences when they spend their money, so it’s possible he sold everything he owns and built debt to leave.
“Sure, I’ll borrow $100k. Good luck collecting when I’m in Russia!”
Honestly, getting rid of them for $100k is probably a bargain.
I mean he moved there and was immediately scammed out of his life savings so… you’re spot on lmao
Some prospective migrants complain about high immigration in their own countries or what they see as declining living standards, he says.
Worried about immigration and poor living standards? Become an immigrant in Russia! Conservatives aren’t great at thinking things through.
things throughat thinking_
