• Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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    if you took their desert which has fuck all trains

    They run hundreds of trains a day between population centers in that desert, I took them to get to Kazakhstan and back.

    skill issue

    The skill issue is being able to build efficient, comfortable, cheap trains, which Japan has the first 2, but they could be cheaper.

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      I mean that’s fine but that doesn’t answer my original point when 3/4th’s of people are using cars to get around, this public transport paradise is limited to inner city and highly dense locations, and even then 50%+ of people are still using cars

      Doesn’t scream public transport is a winner

      I also much prefer driving in my car listening to music and not having little shits on the train making a racket and running around and my car is more comfortable and when I want to go down to GYG at 11pm for a cheeky fries run I’m not standing out in the dark and cold in my suburb (not the nicest) waiting for a bus to turn up and then the same thing on my way back, that would be the pits

      Maybe this works in a big urban centre but the whole world is not a big urban centre

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        3/4th’s of people are using cars to get around, this public transport paradise is limited to inner city and highly dense locations, and even then 50%+ of people are still using cars

        They own or have access to a car, but the bulk of travel is public transit. You like not having to sit in traffic? So did the japanese, despite being a major car manufacturer. Solution is to remove as many trips as possible via alternative transit. I would not call Japan a public transit paradise, but there are things they do well we can learn from.

        listening to music

        Earbuds.

        not having little shits on the train making a racket and running around and my car

        Never seen that over here, what are yall doing differently?

        my car is more comfortable

        You must have excessively shitty trains if having to pay attention to traffic while sitting in 1 position can be more comfortable than sipping tea in a dining car, free to stretch your legs or just using a laptop at your seat.

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          14 hours ago

          Earbuds.

          Yes they are in my ears 24x7, I do like listening through my speaker though

          Never seen that over here, what are yall doing differently?

          Where are you? I bet I can find out pretty quickly you have security teams on your trains at night

          You must have excessively shitty trains if having to pay attention to traffic while sitting in 1 position can be more comfortable than sipping tea in a dining car, free to stretch your legs or just using a laptop at your seat.

          It’s really not that hard to drive and I would rather get to work in 30 minutes than sit around for an hour, the comfort difference is minimal to me, especially so if it’s busy and trains are packed, then nobody is stretching your legs

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            14 hours ago

            Here’s a map of most of where I’ve been in asia, mostly travelling by train or ferry, except in vietnam, where I switch from train to motorbike in Hanoi. I have seen the occasional security guy in China and Korea, never in Japan.