• mabeledo@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    None of these issues is exclusive to trains. I would argue that they are more common in cars, and even more, cars take, on average, longer to repair.

    You see multiple news every day about trains in Spain,Poland or Germany with broken AC or just completely failing between stations.

    I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here. Cars break down all the time, and there’s the entire car repair industry to prove that, but obviously they don’t make the news.

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      11 hours ago

      None of these issues is exclusive to trains. I would argue that they are more common in cars, and even more, cars take, on average, longer to repair.

      You would be wrong. People absolutely can open windows in broken cars or get out of them. I had to call a tow track couple of times and it doesn’t take more than an hour. If it happens in a city you can wait in a bar or wherever. If a train breaks 10 meters from the station you will not be allowed to exit. And I don’t care about repair time, I care about the time I’m sitting in a metal box without AC.

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        11 hours ago

        Where do you live, that trains don’t have windows or doors that can be opened, and these incidents happen so frequently? Because this is not at all my experience in Western Europe.

        Regardless, it is a fact that cars break down more frequently and remediations take longer.

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            11 hours ago

            Then that’s impossible because I know for a fact that long distance trains have windows. But also, RENFE incident dataset is publicly available and updated in real time, and there is no way in hell the number of reported incidents is higher than the overall number of broken cars, not even if we were to average by number of passengers, and especially given the fact that the average car fleet age in Spain is 14 years.

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              10 hours ago

              Then that’s impossible because I know for a fact that long distance trains have windows.

              You’re right. You can totally open windows in long distance trains:

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XewmQjcY3Rc

              But I never said trains break more often than cars, no idea where you took that from. I was saying that if your car breaks down on a highway you will be able to open a window, get out and you will wait for less time to be picked up. I really don’t think it’s difficult to understand.

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                10 hours ago

                Never took an Avlo before. But to be fair, they still have doors.

                Also, this is not standard procedure, not in my experience. It’s the crew’s responsibility to keep passengers safe. If the controllers or the drivers refused to manually override door locks, which is a thing, then they should be admonished or charged accordingly.

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                  9 hours ago

                  It’s not just avlo. It’s all high speed trains. People can’t just open windows in trains going 350 km/h. Those are the long distance trains I’m talking about. No idea what trains you’re talking about.

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        10 hours ago

        If a train breaks 10 meters from the station you will not be allowed to exit.

        Stop FUDing, trains have had emergency release systems for decades.

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          10 hours ago

          Using emergency release without justification will get you a fine. It sounds like you’ve never been on a train.

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            9 hours ago

            Of course it will. I doubt anyone would fine you if you were to use it in an overheated stopped train - although you would probably applaud the fine.

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              3 hours ago

              I know that in your fantasy scenario people open the door when it gets worm and everyone is fine and happy but in reality being stuck in a hot train is not a nice experience. Looks like it never happened to you and you don’t know anyone who was in a situation like that (I know) so it’s like trying to explain a rainbow to a dog.

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                58 minutes ago

                No sweetie, those emergency brakes are reality, not fantasy.
                I’d waste more time trying to figure out your trauma with trains (maybe involves a bathroom experience?) but quite frankly i don’t give a shit.

                Adios