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On Monday, the US Supreme Court decided in Trump v. Slaughter that the US Federal Trade Commission (“FTC”) may not be independent anymore. Since 2000, the EU has relied on the “independent” FTC as the enforcer of EU-US deals on personal data. According to EU treaty law, such oversight must be independent. In the current EU-US deal, the European Commission relies on the independent FTC 259 (!) times.
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Wow, a news site that actually links primary sources like the SCOTUS decision. 10/10 Absolute amaze!
NOYB (non of your business) is great! Not so much a primary news site, but an Austrian NGO that focuses on data privacy in the EU. They have taken some of the biggest cases related to EU:US data transfers against the EU.
Ah, that makes more sense. I was suspicious of a news site being so good. The search for good news source continues…
No data should be exchanged with the US, unless memes taking the piss out of the US are considered data, then yes sure, lots.
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SCC, BCR, PCLOB - would be nice if they explained the acronyms.
It’s European fault for relaying on a single thing
Pretty sure it’ll make no difference. The agreements were already constantly being broken, and the EU only occassionally bothered doing anything about it. With the current European Comission being made up entirely of American assets, I suspect we’ll see no action on this whatsoever.
Frankly, I didn’t even know about this in the first place.
This may delay the launch of windows 12 by a few days, possibly a week. But everyone should remain calm, nothing will fundamentally change.
Important read:
How Hitler Dismantled a Democracy in 53 Days - “He used the constitution to shatter the constitution.”
Please stop calling seflhosting “digital sovereignty”. It’s just a marketing buzzword, but basically there is nothing there except “I will host it myself”.
I thought the idea of digital sovereignty means you host services in the same legal domain or country, not that you literally “self host” things. For example, nobody is calling that the EU organization should self-host anything, only that they would use European cloud services.
Or does “host it myself” actually mean that someone else would host it for you? I don’t believe that’s the common way to understand it.
US-based software does have hosting physically in EU, which makes it in the same legal domain, but US has the CLOUD Act, where US can force their companies, even if abroad, to pull data to US. So, being simply in the same legal domain or country does not make it sovereign. You actually need your own hardware and the full software stack where there is no foregin ownership to actually be sovereign.
And if you just scale up from individual persons to nations/blocks, whats the difference between “I will not use Google Drive, I will selfhost Nextcloud” and “EU will not use Google Drive, it will selfhost Nextcloud”.
Me in this case is just not a person, but a country/political entity. EU is selfhosting instead of using US-provided hosting.
I prefer calling it “digital anarchy”, especially if you’re going so far as setting up your own Meshtastic node.
Shits just getting started. This is just going to be one of many dominoes from this ruling to the ultimate demise of the USA, even if they do get rid of Trump.
This + Citizens United + President can’t be charged for official acts = game over.
The presidency is no longer trust worthy, and now every US agency is no longer trust worthy.
FDA: The drug isn’t safe
Trump: Approve it
FDA: The drug isn’t safe
Trump: You’re fired
FDA: The drug is the BEST DRUG WE’VE EVER SEEN!
Every single agency.
Germany needed the world to fix.
Europe can not just let this happen.
100%=Game Over
Just one more reason for Europe to abandon American tech.
Yes stop buying our shit holy fuck
Enjoying my EU hosted services, and looking forward to my next-gen cloud office software from the EU, and I’m already bypassing US retail brands for most of my electronics.
There was a time that saying “buy American” wasn’t a curse or a threat.
My eu hosted services pass through us servers. Every single one is like this. Probably because your countries are spying on Americans too, and you’re all in cahoots together.
The day that the regular people of Europe and America, realize our leaders are all mutually fucking us together and hopping over to an island to fuck kids while laughing at us will be a fucking great day.
Citations needed for the first paragraph. Hard agree, for the second.
Cloudflare mate.
Jesus fucking Christ STOP
That would help.with so many things if it was abrupt
It’s so fucking stupid they keep saying they will abandon our tech AND YET…
Less talky more doey guys. We are all waiting!
Any day?? Year? Decade!!! Actions speak louder than words and actions prove Europe leaders want this.
What’s transferred is transferred. The amount of available data is massive. Thats not even considering complacency going forward.
The title is wrong. SCOTUS didn’t make anything happen … the question is what EU regulators will do, and my guess is they won’t do a damn thing. But you never know!
The joke of a “privacy framework” has now a excuse less.
I wouldn’t hold my breath that anything changes, though
Watching The Man in the High castle hits very different now.
People over here are seeing what is going on in the USA but
they might still vote for Reform and then we are done. The rich will make sure that they control everything including
every citizen.
Palantir, Musk, Bezos,Thiel and all the other monsters will plunder
what is left of the worlds resources and retreat to their many bunkers
or Mars. They think AI will fix the earth and according to them millions will die in the process of them remaking the world into a Technocratic feudal system.And for that they want all the data till they know more
about you than you do yourself.At least that’s what they have in their project 2025 and beyond as a plan.
They want only the “right” people to survive. It makes horrifying reading, they think of empathy and kindness as big
massive weakness,they want the sick,disabled ,lgbtq and others to die as thy are seen as a burden on their system. Sorry for the rant but I am old and these people scare me.Don’t appologize. You aren’t wrong. It needs to be said.
If it’s any comfort, none of them are getting to Mars.
To be fair, I would love it if they fucked off to Mars.
If they did, it sure would be a shame if their radio stopped working
Oh, I didn’t say that they wouldn’t all board a vessel to Mars.
None of them are stepping foot on it, though, for sure.
It would be nice if we could deposit all of them there, for sure.
That’s literally just musk
Whats the worst thing pioneers could find on Mars? Microslop Teams!
yeah its kinda surreal how this march to destruction is when your at the just trying to make it to retirement age (which looks like won’t be around then anyway)
Do you have any further reading material? It feels like we haven’t gotten too far past the point of no return but I suppose once you pass that point, by definition you can’t return. Are we really that close to Snowcrash?
Look up Curtis Yarvin and Dark Enlightenment. It’s why fElon wore a dark MAGA hat.
This is a good explanation of project 2025. It is a roadmap to the extreme right.
Women will lose their right to vote,getting contraceptives will be hard to come
by as they want women,white women to have as many babies as possible.
They want to institutionalize all homeless,disabled and mentally ill.Withing their circles the talk of mercy killings of these people. There is so much more craziness they want to enact and people need to organize and fight back. https://nwlc.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Project-2025-Full-Report.pdfDoug Rushkoff’s Survival of the Richest paints a really fascinating picture of the tech billionaire mindset. Rushkoff has been writing about tech for like 50 years so he’s able to explain the evolution from creative tech anarchist to fascist sociopath. “They seem to think they can design a car fast enough to outrun its own exhaust.”
Search for “Thiel Dialogue Leaks” for more nightmare fuel to read
trump wants palantir to handle all the data, so they cant profile “dissidents against right wing governments”
One big lie has been debunked.
Whether or not that means there will be more truth, well, time will tell.
There will never be more truth while these crazy idiots are in charge. Take the reflecting pool as example, everyone saw it being painted and they were proudly yammering about it being painted. The paint failed because they’re morons and suddenly it was terrorists cutting a 300 foot liner with a box cutter.
