On December 4, Microsoft announced a global price and packaging update for select Microsoft 365 commercial suites and standalone components, including Enterprise, Business, Frontline, and Government commercial equivalents.
No you can’t. You can’t go around asking businesses that may or may not know what that is or how to do it in the middle of fast pace negotiations or business to save a file in a different format because you are a special snowflake. It should be done to be able to test the other format natively and vise versa or to make it the main format. It won’t work otherwise in such places. That is why there are few and far between businesses switching.
Mind you this is coming from a person that switched 2 years or so ago and BOT going back no matter what.
Are you saying a business has never said “this needs to be a PDF” before?
What are you talking about mate ? We are talking about open office and microsoft office, what PDF ?! What does PDF have to do with excels, columns and rows, misalignment and word objects moving on a word document.
Fuck off with that noise. If they don’t understand how to use “save as” they don’t deserve the contract.
you have obviously never dealt with businesses first hand. I work in big tech, and you cant do that here eater. It has to be done naturally, you cant do that in a fast pace business work flow, you will simply loose clients and money because you are too slow, asking people to change their habits, and waiting for someone to convert something that they forgot to convert it because you feel like a special snowflake and you want your pancakes done in a special way.
If you are challenging my argument based on experience, I’ve been doing IT for years. Screw off. Focus on the argument at hand not faking a debate on provenance of experiences.
I used PDF as an example of businesses routinely juggling multiple formats just fine. If we are talking about special snowflakes requesting particular pancakes, you need to understand MS office docs are spaghetti code they can’t export from flawlessly because even Microsoft doesn’t fully understand how it works anymore. Its layers and layers of poorly documented BS. ODF is a well documented, open, non proprietary industry standard.
You are the one defending the idea that anyone who doesn’t want to pay a ransom to get their work done is weird and insisting everyone else cater to them. I am simply saying “saves as, not save”
You’re huffing glue if you think the MS business model is anything less than a hostage situation. All you have to do to migrate is tell Dolores to move the mouse cursor a little farther south to reach save as to get out.
I work in Siemens (big tech) and I have a small business. On the side my brother in law has a middle sized business and I have worked for them in the past.
You working for IT for yeara is like me breathing air, everybody works for IT, unless argument. Maybe its even proof that you are out of touch, as you live in your IT sector bubble and think the real world works as your corporate IT job procedurea. Its in fact working against your argument when I think about it.
PDFs have literally zero crap to do with juggling excels back and forth and word documents used as templates that have to be edited constantly in small to middle sized business.
Also just reading your lunatic ramblinc about worms ransoms, huffing glue and Dolores… Just speaks volume that you are not here to hear opinions and arguments but just put your of course “correct” opinion on top of everybody and call them names.
No you can’t. You can’t go around asking businesses that may or may not know what that is or how to do it in the middle of fast pace negotiations or business to save a file in a different format because you are a special snowflake. It should be done to be able to test the other format natively and vise versa or to make it the main format. It won’t work otherwise in such places. That is why there are few and far between businesses switching.
Mind you this is coming from a person that switched 2 years or so ago and BOT going back no matter what.
Are you saying a business has never said “this needs to be a PDF” before?
Fuck off with that noise. If they don’t understand how to use “save as” they don’t deserve the contract.
What are you talking about mate ? We are talking about open office and microsoft office, what PDF ?! What does PDF have to do with excels, columns and rows, misalignment and word objects moving on a word document.
you have obviously never dealt with businesses first hand. I work in big tech, and you cant do that here eater. It has to be done naturally, you cant do that in a fast pace business work flow, you will simply loose clients and money because you are too slow, asking people to change their habits, and waiting for someone to convert something that they forgot to convert it because you feel like a special snowflake and you want your pancakes done in a special way.
If you are challenging my argument based on experience, I’ve been doing IT for years. Screw off. Focus on the argument at hand not faking a debate on provenance of experiences.
I used PDF as an example of businesses routinely juggling multiple formats just fine. If we are talking about special snowflakes requesting particular pancakes, you need to understand MS office docs are spaghetti code they can’t export from flawlessly because even Microsoft doesn’t fully understand how it works anymore. Its layers and layers of poorly documented BS. ODF is a well documented, open, non proprietary industry standard.
You are the one defending the idea that anyone who doesn’t want to pay a ransom to get their work done is weird and insisting everyone else cater to them. I am simply saying “saves as, not save”
You’re huffing glue if you think the MS business model is anything less than a hostage situation. All you have to do to migrate is tell Dolores to move the mouse cursor a little farther south to reach save as to get out.
I work in Siemens (big tech) and I have a small business. On the side my brother in law has a middle sized business and I have worked for them in the past.
You working for IT for yeara is like me breathing air, everybody works for IT, unless argument. Maybe its even proof that you are out of touch, as you live in your IT sector bubble and think the real world works as your corporate IT job procedurea. Its in fact working against your argument when I think about it.
PDFs have literally zero crap to do with juggling excels back and forth and word documents used as templates that have to be edited constantly in small to middle sized business.
Also just reading your lunatic ramblinc about worms ransoms, huffing glue and Dolores… Just speaks volume that you are not here to hear opinions and arguments but just put your of course “correct” opinion on top of everybody and call them names.
Enjoy living in your IT job world boss.
Interesting attempt at reframing the situation. It’s actually much simpler though.
You said something dumb on the internet. I clubbed you over the head with it. You won’t move on. I’m bored and petty and keep responding.
I will say it’s surprising someone allegedly working for Siemens can’t fathom a business not using Microsoft office.