Is there no hiccups? Because if I want to roll it out in our organization and switch to linux, I really need it to be perfect and fool proof (people that dont know what an OS is will be using it of course)
I’d say it works such that any mildly technically competent person can use it.
The problem is that I know The absolute surface level nature of most people’s technical ability.
The dual file system nature of winboat would probably cause you issues. All you have to do is save your work to the folder that you have shared between both os’s, but equally, I know full well the majority of computer users don’t know what a file or directory structure is.
I don’t expect the office apps to continue supporting ltsc tbh, so hopefully it lasts long enough for you.
Windows does aggressive caching now but will clear that if the memory is needed so I often find the in use value to not be as useful of an indicator now.
I will say if that was a 4gb machine I don’t expect it will run 11 that well, we now will only ok 16gb computers. Not just for windows, but chrome et al all have ridiculous memory usage now.
Interestingly, the web 365 apps seem to work on Linux Mint, but I’ve not used them extensively, or on another distro. I did a migration from Win10 to LM last autumn, and I was genuinely shocked to find that web Outlook and OneDrive work on Firefox on LM. Confirmed that web Excel and Word worked enough to allow display and editing of documents - not an extensive test, but definitely worth a look. Obviously, there are still differences between the web and desktop versions, but it might even be possible to run them under Wine, but I have not tried that, and woudn’t expect it to go too well tbh.
The web versions aren’t really professional enough for office usage afaik (and we don’t really “buy” microsoft products. And the web version doesn’t work that way afaik)
We’re more than 125 000 employees globally using M$ Office 365. It’s cheaper, more secure, far superior for collaboration than the locally installed apps IMO. Works on and Linux distro with a JavaScript capable browser. Google suite is even better but the people calling the shots have a fetish for M$. Saying the web versions are not professional is odd. Maybe we just don’t share the definition of professional
Windows has a lot more security than Linux (which lags). Every time Windows comes out with a new technology like secure boot, Linux users will scoff and down-play it until they catch up. And this happens with more than just security.
Also, Linux has way too many toolkits. If you want all the best apps; you need to add many whole toolkits which dramatically change the footprint. All new icons, dependencies, fonts, etc. Initial installs make a great first impression, and the rest is blamed on ‘your fault’, ‘pebkac’, ‘skill issue’. -Because it’s a religion.
I would love it if LiGNUts could use a search engine. -But nah, they’ll wait hours and lean on others for an answer they could obtain in seconds. “cite your source” -Is the internet not at your fingertips?
Compared to what?
You cannot honestly argue that Linux has better security. It’s not even a priority of Torvalds and he gets angry about too much security infringing on userspace. Everyone also knows BSD is more secure by default. We’re also talking just the kernel with Linux. Add all the ‘hobby’ type garbage that comes with DEs and you’re no longer using a kernel as your propaganda. Windows has improved vastly since the 90s when people just played mild pranks and no one was banking online.
Literally tried to install windows 11 for our office machines last week.
unfortunately Linux isn’t yet an option because of microsoft office.
I have been managing with winboat for my office requirements.
Is there no hiccups? Because if I want to roll it out in our organization and switch to linux, I really need it to be perfect and fool proof (people that dont know what an OS is will be using it of course)
I’d say it works such that any mildly technically competent person can use it.
The problem is that I know The absolute surface level nature of most people’s technical ability.
The dual file system nature of winboat would probably cause you issues. All you have to do is save your work to the folder that you have shared between both os’s, but equally, I know full well the majority of computer users don’t know what a file or directory structure is.
I don’t expect the office apps to continue supporting ltsc tbh, so hopefully it lasts long enough for you.
Windows does aggressive caching now but will clear that if the memory is needed so I often find the in use value to not be as useful of an indicator now.
I will say if that was a 4gb machine I don’t expect it will run 11 that well, we now will only ok 16gb computers. Not just for windows, but chrome et al all have ridiculous memory usage now.
Interestingly, the web 365 apps seem to work on Linux Mint, but I’ve not used them extensively, or on another distro. I did a migration from Win10 to LM last autumn, and I was genuinely shocked to find that web Outlook and OneDrive work on Firefox on LM. Confirmed that web Excel and Word worked enough to allow display and editing of documents - not an extensive test, but definitely worth a look. Obviously, there are still differences between the web and desktop versions, but it might even be possible to run them under Wine, but I have not tried that, and woudn’t expect it to go too well tbh.
Yes, the office web apps all work fine inside of Firefox on Linux.
The web versions aren’t really professional enough for office usage afaik (and we don’t really “buy” microsoft products. And the web version doesn’t work that way afaik)
We’re more than 125 000 employees globally using M$ Office 365. It’s cheaper, more secure, far superior for collaboration than the locally installed apps IMO. Works on and Linux distro with a JavaScript capable browser. Google suite is even better but the people calling the shots have a fetish for M$. Saying the web versions are not professional is odd. Maybe we just don’t share the definition of professional
You missed the part where we don’t buy microsoft products.
I use a debloated Win11 image for the situations I can’t get around it. Still much more resource intensive than Linux, but it’s something.
Windows has a lot more security than Linux (which lags). Every time Windows comes out with a new technology like secure boot, Linux users will scoff and down-play it until they catch up. And this happens with more than just security.
Also, Linux has way too many toolkits. If you want all the best apps; you need to add many whole toolkits which dramatically change the footprint. All new icons, dependencies, fonts, etc. Initial installs make a great first impression, and the rest is blamed on ‘your fault’, ‘pebkac’, ‘skill issue’. -Because it’s a religion.
Your brain lags
I would love it if you back your claim “windows has lot more security than linux” with facts and evidence.
I would love it if LiGNUts could use a search engine. -But nah, they’ll wait hours and lean on others for an answer they could obtain in seconds. “cite your source” -Is the internet not at your fingertips?
You never learned how arguments work, huh? Here, let me help you.
Oh, so you know how to source something and still refuse to back your claim that Linux is more secure.
Windows security has alwaya been laughably bad, and usually just a scam to try to make it harder for users to use other operating systems.
Compared to what? You cannot honestly argue that Linux has better security. It’s not even a priority of Torvalds and he gets angry about too much security infringing on userspace. Everyone also knows BSD is more secure by default. We’re also talking just the kernel with Linux. Add all the ‘hobby’ type garbage that comes with DEs and you’re no longer using a kernel as your propaganda. Windows has improved vastly since the 90s when people just played mild pranks and no one was banking online.