Lol. Lmao, even.
Skimping out on backbone capacity is definitely a Musk move 😂
More!
Nah hes running out of dupes. Private equity is very, very stupid but theyre catching up
I hate everything about this. We’re ruining our astronomical observations and risking Kessler Syndrome so a trillionaire can price gouge rural internet subscribers because he wants to get the high score on net worth because he can’t get a high score on twitter likes (despite owning it) or any video game (despite having paid help). Who the hell told the United States that we have regulatory authority over our shared sky anyway?
They aren’t price gouging rural internet subscribers it’s the opposite they get half priced subscriptions for as long as they keep them. It is the people who try to sign up that already live in a congested area that get fuck off prices. You can sign up and get a rural deal and then move to a congested area with fuckoff pricing. That is what I did inadvertently.
TIL about Kessler Syndrome. Thanks.
There’s an anime/manga series kinda about it. They’re a misfit space garbage disposal crew. Meant to prevent space collisions.
Me too. Also, I’m surprised Bezos doesn’t just do “space debris” cleanup. He’s not going to get into Musk’s space anytime soon.
If you’re on a fedi service that allows you to follow individual accounts, like mastodon or piefed, you can follow my favorite astronomy professor in the fediverse who talks about this @sundogplanets@mastodon.social
Followed because awesome.
It’s terrifying.
Yes, there is a high demand for SpaceX to be less insolvent.
Prior to and including IPO they have been on quite a marketing kick. Referral schemes, equipment rentals, discount plans for low usage etc. Seems like they’re trying hard to make the business make sense. I maintain that LEO (and WISP) ISPs should be limited to more extreme applications yet I see them all over the place in residential areas. Their technical achievements are impressive but if phone systems to remote areas were possible, then so should fibre optics.
Also this should be built by international organisations, not billionaires. A plague on Musk and a plague on Bezos.
I’m not in a remote area, just a geographically inconvenient one. Two blocks over they have fiber. Not in my neighborhood. I have been complaining about this for well over a decade.
Ma Bell had several decades to gain good ROI with POTS, while the rate of technology change today shrinks that outlook to just one to two decades. Plus the most profitable high income areas to be installing fiber now often have local laws requiring much more expensive underground installations so residents don’t have to see the ugly poles with wires hanging between them.
Which snap a lot more regularly now with the broken weather.
Seems like every other 4x4 has one on the roof, every camper, people even mount them on their motorcycles.
I don’t think that’s really the issue, it’s the streaming that really does them in.
On one hand you have Netflix trying to cram 4k through and the neighbour is trying to have a phone call.
True, I don’t know if they already do it, but limiting media streams to 480p like cell providers do on some plans would probably lower congestion a lot. And maybe limiting large file transfers over a certain size to a lower priority and speed.
If you use starlink, you deserve far worse. 5g is usually sufficient unless you’re out in the ocean or something. Either way it’s ruining the night sky, making launches more dangerous, destroying the ozone layer we tried so hard to repair, and supporting death and fascism.
Tell me you know nothing about rural living without telling you know nothing about rural living
Fortunately in my area in Australia we have wireless broadband. There are small towers installed and operated by a local company that provide a good service. The whole lot of towers interconnect using microwave too so can span a large area. In any case, fibre isn’t coming to my place probably ever.
5G in rural America is terrible. I can’t make a phone call in my house, let alone get an internet connection. I’m not even in a particularly remote area.
There are Starlink dishes everwhere you look here because it’s currently the only real option. It will probably be a while until they get some competition from Amazon.
Because they lobbied to shutdown running fiber to your community.
The local ISP has been promising fiber for over a decade. They waited until Starlink took most of their customers before they started putting it in.
destroying the ozone layer
This made me ask “wait, is that true” and apparently it is. Super, skin cancer for everyone. 🤦
And it’ll take ages to have an impact too.
Furthermore, we find that these reentry byproducts may take up to 30 years to settle from the top of the mesosphere into the stratospheric ozone layer. Upon reaching an altitude of about 40 km, aluminum oxides catalyze chlorine activation which promotes ozone depletion.
So the “reentry byproducts” from a satellite re-entering now, won’t start breaking down ozone until 2056, and by then there will be another 30 years’ worth of byproducts deposited in the upper atmosphere.
And since it’s a catalyst, it won’t even be consumed in the process like CFCs are.
Tldr aluminum from burning up satellites is a catalyst that breaks down ozone.
I wonder if wooden satellites would help. I don’t know how capable they are compared to normal ones, but it should reduce the amount of aluminium we launch into space.
High-demand fees are just surge pricing for the internet.
The corporate version of privatize the profits, socialize the costs. Get in bed with billionaires and you’re an enemy of humanity.
I’ve been having occasional Internet issues over the last few years and was thinking about having a backup ISP.
A lot of people in my town suggest Starlink… And well, I’d rather not have Internet at all!
However, I did recently find these guys: https://www.computers4people.org/shield I’m gonna give these guys a shot.
It’s probably not comparable, but no way in hell am I ever signing up for Starlink.
I think that makes a lot of sense, it would be nice if they clarified if you could BYO router. My guess is you can, as long as it has a sim slot, but can’t be too sure. Make sure T-Mobile coverage is good in your area first as well
That looks pretty good
So if you’re out on a farm, what’s the best option for Internet? Is 3g an option? (Either unlimited or a very large amount) Any line of sight service good?
Depends on the place. In a lot of countries, the countryside has complete coverage of 3G and 4G. There are also places with at least coax, and even fiber.
In places like the US, companies like Starlink have lobbied so that no cable is installed and no nationwide 3G/4G coverage exists (5G coverage would be near impossible due to the limitations of the technology).
Imho we should be focusing on running cable everywhere instead of trying to maintain a massive network of thousands of satellites in LEO. It’s probably cheaper in the long run, and it doesn’t ruin scientific observations or the ozone layer.
Biden’s broadband equity program earmarked over $42MM to expand broadband; past admins were incentivizing telecom to take action, but lo and behold, doge slashed a gutted to move funding toward starlink.
Is there any source of high speed internet? You could look into a community mesh network.
If you’re out on a farm, you fit the intended use case for starlink.
The issue is that all them city folk see starlink as a way of escaping the locked in municipal ISPs. So they clog up satellite bandwidth when they have fibre/5G/HFC/wireless/xDSL options literally at their front door.
What’s the best option after satellite.
Probably cellular-based internet.
You would be very surprised how many rural areas have barely-working cellular networks that are unreliable and not fast enough for usable data.
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Elon’s mom is also in high demand, but he’s still selling her cheap
