Good progress nonetheless. Can’t wait for China to flood the fuck out of the nVidia/AMD/Intel GPU oligopoly. It may take a decade but it will happen for sure.

Oooh so they will have these high-end GPUs just sitting there on house walls? What tools would be needed to unmount one, and how heavy is it to transport? Asking for a friend…

The companies I listed, as far as I can tell, are not supplying or trying to supply any fascist military. Some (like Alibaba who made Qwen) are obviously unethical in other ways. But all these companies make open-weight models so if they are unethical you can always avoid contributing to them by selfhosting or going to third-party inference providers.

Kimi is my favorite. But you can try GLM going by your leaderboard website.

You must be American. I am talking about Kimi, Mistral, GLM, Liquid, Minimax, Arcee, Qwen, Deepseek, Xiaomi.

And you are of course allowed to use cloud inference if you don’t have the hardware to run locally. Just choose an inference service that is not in bed with fascists. There are plenty. Good luck and have a nice day.

I have nothing against AI but everything against a certain AI company that is fully in bed with fascists.

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.

Please do not use this slogan as an excuse to not sought out the least unethical option for your consumptions.

Facts:

• Anthropic supplies some AI system to Maven
• Maven analyzes data and determine bombing targets

My conclusion: Anthropic’s AI is in the US military’s kill chain which killed 120 children.

Your conclusion: The LLM did not directly target the school. We don’t know how it was used. It was also not there from the beginning so probably not probably part of the “core system.”

Okay. I guess we at least agree on the facts.

You are giving the company a huge amount of benefit of doubt and I don’t understand why. May I ask: If it was Elon Musk’s xAI/Grok rather than Anthropic, would your thoughts on this change? How about if it was Yandex making the AI and the school was in Ukraine?

Reminder that Anthropic’s AI system was used in targeting the school in Minab, killing 120 students. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/03/11/us-strike-iran-elementary-school-ai-target-list/

The company is suing to be able to supply the US military again. It is in bed with the fascists.

Okay fair enough.

Since Maven’s entire business is data analysis and targeting, can we agree that if the AI is not being used for targeting, it is being used to analyze data? And those analyzed data get fed into the targeting system, so the AI is part of the kill chain?

What kind of data is being analyzed by AI? How much of it feed into the targeting system? I concede that I don’t know and have no source. The US military would have to be really stupid to make these info public.

You’re the one saying it’s not the Claude LLM doing the targeting. Your source is that Guardian article you linked.

I don’t care if it’s an LLM or some other thing made by Anthropic. Anthropic is involved in this. All the sources in this conversation so far indicate so. Or are you trying to argue that they are just supplying Palantir and Project Maven for wholly innocent purposes?

Pointing out Anthropic’s involvement in the killing of 120 students does not in any way shift blame away from Palantir and Maven. Of course there are information gaps regarding how exactly the AI was involved. No remotely competent military would make all these information public.

My sources are already linked in my two earlier comments. What about them are you disputing?

I don’t see how the recency matters. That Anthropic was not involved in bombings conducted by the US military in previous years does not absolve them of their involvement in the bombing of the school in Minab.

Yes. I never said it was an LLM. It was probably some custom AI system made by Anthropic.

Are we agreed that some Anthropic AI system (not necessarily the Claude LLM) was in the kill chain? That was what I was trying to say from the beginning.

Anthropic’s AI did data analysis for Project Maven, which was a system that used data analyzed by various sources to target a school. So the AI is part of the “kill-chain” no?

Fuck L.W but what’s the point of this wholly AI-generated post?

And Maven used Anthropic’s AI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Maven

I wasn’t clear. What I meant was: what sane things could a fascist military use AI for?

“Reactionary” lmao. My friend, I use LLMs all the time. Just not the proprietary ones from companies that are in bed with fascists.

What sane use? And how does this company plan to prevent the fascists from using it to kill another 120 children?

The only not-evil move is to not sell dual-use goods to fascists in the first place.

For me I just use it to get verbose answers to questions.

I use open-weight LLM over search engines when I can, because Google/Bing/Yandex are complete proprietary black boxes run by corporations of questionable morality.

There are many less evils. Use open source/weight AI like Kimi, GLM, Deepseek, Mistral, Olmo, Arcee, Minimax, Qwen, Exaone, NVidia, Sarvam…

If you don’t have the hardware to run locally, you can pay for API. If you find the company problematic for whatever reason, you can switch to the same model served by a third party (possible because the model weights are publicly released).

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