What? A baby GPU didn’t do as well as an experienced professional with decades of experience?? I am in shock -_-
Didn‘t expect anything less (or more) to be honest. Not at the moment. 5 years from now, though? It‘s entirely possible most new PC hardware will be made by Chinese brands that we have never heard of.
At least someone tries to compete. I’d get a slower Chinese any day over the fucking greedy nvidias. Spent 2500 for my last GPU. In 1990 I bought 2 high end computers for that. And some groceries. And go to the movies…
I’m so fed with all this. China will be the long-term winner in nearly everything.
$2,500 in 1990 is worth $6,369.93 today
That’s not entirely true. You can’t squirrel away 1990’s $2500 and have it worth $6300 today. The more accurate statement would be that because of inflation (and also greedflation), what you once purchased with $2500, now takes $6300. This decrease in purchasing power, most recently, was brought almost entirely by price collusion, corporate greed, and a lack of regulation enforcement.
They will improve and quickly.
Now that intel is likely out of the race, they are out last hope
it takes time to develop a tech like that.
as an example, China decided to invest in animation after Kung Fu Panda. slow process with a lot of internal movies, and a couple years ago they released the most successful animated movie in history.
Let them cook
Is Intel rumored to drop it’s GPU line? Haven’t really kept up to date lately.
Intel isn’t out of the race. The Chinese gpu have mostly issue related to driver as intel had when they started and intel had igpu so it s gonna be hard for chineese one to catch back but they will
Nvidia have invested heavily in them and the writing is on the wall. We will see what happens.
The tech media is showing who their sponsors are with this shit. “Oh the new guy isn’t number one right away? Better give up!” Fuck right off.
You know what? I’m going out and buying another Intel GPU out of spite.
Toms has always been clickbait. They just copy and sensationalize other headlines they find, and they’ve frequently bent the knee for Nvidia. Other outlets used to make fun of them all the time.
It’s sad they “survived” the enshittification of the internet and people keep sharing their clickbait :(
That being said, there’s some truth here.
And “flops” is the headline?? That they got this level of performance so quickly should have been. Wait a couple of years and let’s see where are they at then. Holy cow that’s really fast progress, i can see them beating Intel gpus pretty soon
Yes but they gotta get the people hating them early before they take off in a couple years or else who the hell would still buy Intel after whatever they push out in a few years that’s probably gonna be orders of magnitude cheaper.
I suspect they will make them illegal eventually like the electric vehicles China makes.
I agree Tom’s Hardware is unnecessarily derisive but I also think the performance curve bending to the current date is an exponential difficulty curve. China still has no replacement and no plausible path to a replacement for the most modern EUV nodes that require ASML lithography machines.
They can very very quickly leapfrog older generations of GPU hardware by going straight to the peak of their home-grown lithography processes, that’s not surprising. But getting performance to keep following the curve to the last 2-3 years is a sheer cliff, not a ramp. It took ASML decades to do it and nobody worldwide has replicated it, because it’s just that hard, even as China tries to acquire export-controlled prior-gen machines on the gray market.
Maybe I’ll be wrong, but don’t be surprised if we see no improvement or minor optimizations for years.
Wait a couple of years
It may take a decade but it will happen for sure
new architecture 5x in 5 years and by 2032
Wait for the next couple generations
How are they going to survive the next decade if they’re selling $200 performance for $500 man.
Apparently it does get fairly similar performance in benchmarks, just not it games, which could indicate that the hardware is there and it’s just the drivers that are lacking.
Which often is the case with Chinese electronics - often brilliant hardware with absolutely terrible software haphazardly slapped on, and support dropped before the thing even shipped.
thats not the case here, chip manufacuring, gpu hardware, and gpu software is really fucking insane to do
there are lots of specifications to add, not to mention the special things nvidia add outside the specification
intel had a head start with their igpus and they still struggled
Good progress nonetheless. Can’t wait for China to flood the fuck out of the nVidia/AMD/Intel GPU oligopoly. It may take a decade but it will happen for sure.
We could all use some supply and competition.
But the real bottleneck is TSMC… china could design a breakthrough gaming gpu tomorrow that gives you 8k at 240fps, and guess what? It wont be built any time soon because TSM is too busy building AI stuff for nvidia
China has been investing in its own semiconductor manufacturing for decades. They are behind, but I wouldn’t bet on them staying behind forever.
Toms hardware would likely have said the same thing about early EV cars from China about 5 years ago
I mean… They would have been right 5 years ago. But then they caught up and are showing some other manufacturers up.
Similarly here, Chinese manufacturers are making progress, and as usual they’re catching up quite well. In a few years I fully expect to see actual competition, and competition benefits everyone.
It’s a stupid misdirection. What should be celebrated is the achievement and the trajectory they’re on. This is as if the US finally took renewables seriously, reached at least the global average, and people were like “it doesn’t matter because there are countries that do a 100%”. No - context absolutely does matter.
I think it was a few decades ago ATI/AMD was outperforming Nvidia.
So weirder things have happened.
If they get out some solid linux drivers, I’d buy one. Same thing for me when it comes to anything risc-v. I’m buying out of interest in a new alternative
China iterates. China wins. Look at EV, solar, etc.
I feels like if people read the first sentence there, people might realise that the headline isn’t harsh at all, the company claim the card perform like a dragon, priced like a dragon, but a test by tech channel from china proofed otherwise. If it’s $200 then the headline might be different.
The author is a chinese, no less, which probably comb chinese socmed for this news.
Wait for the next couple generations… 🤔
I’ve never bought anything from China at full price, expect deep discounts and short generations, they will have a new architecture 5x in 5 years and by 2032 will be outselling Nvidia and amd combined… And why shouldn’t they, amd and Nvidia have proven time and time again they have gamers
