Cool, so you found what…6 people who might possibly be gay or like some strange stuff? And that then means that all “right-wingers” are the same? So if I was to find say 6 instances of a left-winger being a pedo, does that mean that all left-wingers are pedos?
You actually want me to provide 6 examples of left-wing homophobia, or pedos, or anything else like that? You seriously don’t think that any left-wing people do bad things?
The point is that there’s no “right wingers are all closet homosexuals”, just like there’s no “left wingers are all closet pedos”. How did you not get that? Are there some, even lots, on both sides? Absolutely.
I’ve provided examples of individual and institutional homophobia - you’ve failed to even suggest evidence of the former. I would not deny that individual “left wingers” (idk if you distinguish between leftists and liberals in the same way I do) that are homophobic - but I don’t think I’ve seen any evidence that progressive ideologies are institutionally homophobic. Feel free to provide some evidence though!
But your “evidence” isn’t indicative of all “right-wingers”. It’s some small study of “homophobes”. Many on the left are homophobes, seemingly more and more these days as “trans rights” and gay rights don’t mix very well.
Boo-boo, I’m a trans man. Telling me that being trans is homophobic is not the move.
Radicalized theories of transgender identity also now serve to promote the idea that gender and sexuality are not only different, but unconnected. In one narrow sense, there is some basis to this: All men are not sexually attracted to women, and vice versa—which is why separating desire from gender is important. But it’s one thing to say that your gender doesn’t predict who you will be sexually attracted to (which is true), and quite another to say that gender has absolutely nothing to do with sexuality, which (as I will illustrate by way of autobiography later in this essay) is false.
Cool, so you found what…6 people who might possibly be gay or like some strange stuff? And that then means that all “right-wingers” are the same? So if I was to find say 6 instances of a left-winger being a pedo, does that mean that all left-wingers are pedos?
Welcome to Lemmy, where anecdotal evidence apparently = facts and people pull truth out of their asses.
Queen Gertrude: The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
Homophobia is absolute rife in the left-wing community btw.
Which is why you provided examples. I wonder if there is an explicit historical difference in party platforms.
Was is it Clinton who ignored the AIDS epidemic until it became a crisis and told a supposed friend to fuck off when they were dying?
You actually want me to provide 6 examples of left-wing homophobia, or pedos, or anything else like that? You seriously don’t think that any left-wing people do bad things?
The point is that there’s no “right wingers are all closet homosexuals”, just like there’s no “left wingers are all closet pedos”. How did you not get that? Are there some, even lots, on both sides? Absolutely.
You’re right in that individual examples prove nothing, but the evidence suggests something larger at play.
I’ve provided examples of individual and institutional homophobia - you’ve failed to even suggest evidence of the former. I would not deny that individual “left wingers” (idk if you distinguish between leftists and liberals in the same way I do) that are homophobic - but I don’t think I’ve seen any evidence that progressive ideologies are institutionally homophobic. Feel free to provide some evidence though!
But your “evidence” isn’t indicative of all “right-wingers”. It’s some small study of “homophobes”. Many on the left are homophobes, seemingly more and more these days as “trans rights” and gay rights don’t mix very well.
https://quillette.com/2019/01/31/homophobia-and-the-modern-trans-movement/
Boo-boo, I’m a trans man. Telling me that being trans is homophobic is not the move.
Holy shit, they gave this dumbass a PhD?
Amazing that your same source (different author) has an article praising John Money. The guy who made David Reimer pretend to have sex with his brother to convince him that he was a girl. That’s fascinating - usually “TERFs” like to bring up Money to condemn “the trans movement.”