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Ugh yeah, I’m an Uber driver and it being a cheap EV that also qualifies for comfort rides would really make my life better but I just can’t support the Nazi. I’m kinda jazzed about the slate truck, but I’m sure it’s bad for leftists someway somehow. Living under the thumb of capitalism is tough
slate truck, but I’m sure it’s bad for leftists someway somehow
I’m not familiar with it. But what’s its front-on visibility like? How many children can sit in a line in front of it before you can see them? How tall would someone have to be before a crash results in someone being knocked over the car, rather than being run over? (The former being generally much safer.) The problem with many of these types of vehicles that Americans call “trucks” is that their insanely tall bonnets make them insanely dangerous to pedestrians and cyclists—especially children.
It seems like it’s slightly lower profile than a Ford Maverick and doesn’t seem to employee the sloped hood shape that’s better when it’s between the 30in-40in range. Which it doesn’t appear to be in. I’m kind of leaning towards the ionique? Ionic? The Hyundai. The other issue I’m working with is that I have a tall frame and sitting in a sedan all day is pretty uncomfortable which makes driving longer hours intolerable. Knock on wood I haven’t hit any pedestrians but I do do a lot of driving and it’s entirely possible that’s because of driving a sedan where I can see. It is a worthwhile consideration. But it would be nice. So many considerations
Just looking at the Maverick online, it seems a fairly obscenely tall bonnet in the 2022 models, but older models are much more reasonable.
ionique? Ionic
I think it’s spelt Ioniq. They’re a brand I quite like, and looking at their recent lineup (I think the last time I looked at them was like 2021), the Ioniq 3, 5, and 7 all seem really good. The 9 stretches things a bit, but is still a hell of a lot better than the Maverick 2022.
At least if someone drives a brand-new Tesla. I can kinda sympathise a little bit with people who bought theirs a couple of years ago before Elmo’s antics became really obvious and are now struggling to get rid of it.
I give a pass to most Tesla’s because I don’t know much about cars. The cyber dumpster drivers knew full well who he was before buying their Swasticars, and they get to see my social finger at every opportunity.
Also, the cybertruck is objectively garbage on every front.
It failed at its original design, it failed at its current design, it failed at range, it failed at tow capacity, and more. It is objectively the worst vehicle in the sector it’s trying to claim it is in.
No, but selling your car in about a year, after you’ve had time to prepare shouldn’t be too big if a deal, right? It’s not about boycotting, it’s about having some kind of line that you draw in the sand and say “No more”.
Obviously you can’t do that, there no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism. Regardless, there are choices you can make. I have never will never eat a a Chick filet, for example. You have to have SOME line
My car is 8 years old and paid off. I’m sorry we didn’t have many options 8 years ago and we didn’t know who he was. I’m glad I have an EV now because gas is crazy and my electricity is $0.13/kWh vs $5.50 for gas, even though I barely drive it since I live in a city now and take public transit, but my wife uses it to drive to work. I am not going to buy another tesla if we ever need another car.
But there’s no point in selling a car that we use at a loss right now. I don’t give him any money besides long distance trips with the superchargers, but every new EV uses the Tesla super chargers now.
Um where have you been? With chip shortage and supply chain issues the dealers were phoning people up and offering more than they paid to get cars back.
A friend drove a van for 2 years and dealer bought it back over new price.
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Used cars have been crazy prices too. A car you’d have paid $1800 for 6 years ago is now $6000 even with six years more
I bought mine before he went crazy. He has tweets after I purchased bragging about scoring high on lgbtq equality. Further, mine has lifetime free supercharging. The longer I have it the more I cost tesla money.
He was always a shitty person. Even in his adolescence.
He made fun of his classmate because his classmates father committed suicide. That classmate responded by shoving him down the stairs. Which honestly should have happened more.
He has always had some pretty shitty opinions about things and a shitty way of doing business. Tesla was basically stolen by Musk from the guys who founded it, then he tried to rewrite Tesla history and label himself as the soul founder, at which point the actual founders had to sue him to maintain their founder status, and that was all in 2009, so unless you tell me that you bought the Roadster in 2008, I have a really hard time believing you. Or you’re one of those people that don’t care about things until it’s literally shoved in your face. But I digress. Sure you didn’t know.
But what’s stopping you from selling the one you have now, since you do know, now?
Because, as mentioned in my initial comment, it costs tesla money the longer I have it. If I sell it, the free supercharging won’t go with it. While it’s mine I can choose where to get repairs and avoid tesla service centers. That’s not a guarantee if I sell it.
Tesla Roadster was just a Lotus with a retrofit electric motor. Without Elons cash they wouldn’t have become what they are today.
In effect he helped found a viable production car instead of staying as an aftermarket retro fit of another manufacturers car.
He’s an absolute asshole douche, but I’m glad he brought Tesla to where it is, it forced all other ICE manufacturers to take EVs seriously.
You bought yours before 2018? Because that’s the cut-off for when supporting anything Musk does was acceptable. Butting his way into an emergency situation offering “help” that lacked any awareness of what was actually needed, and getting so butthurt when told he wasn’t helping that he accused the heroes actually saving children’s lives of being paedophiles, and hiring PIs to try and track down dirt on them to that effect, is inexcusable. And then lying to a court to pretend that calling someone a paedophile is not a serious insult in South Africa, in order to win the defamation suit.
It was a prominent enough news event that unlike his many flaws from before then, Tesla owners cannot reasonably claim ignorance after 2018.
But anyone who genuinely did buy their Tesla before then is fine in my books. As winkerjadams says, selling your car now won’t hurt them. Not enough to matter, anyway. (In theory, more people selling might reduce the resale value, which will reduce incentive for people to buy new, reducing Tesla’s value. But I suspect that’s a miniscule effect in the EV market.)
At this point, if you drive a Tesla, I have a real hard time not thinking you like Nazis who hate freedom and minorities. 🤷♂️
pictured: Tesla CEO
fucking nazi scum trash
What a wonderful Roman Salute. 💀
The fact he said the following at an AfD campaign rally later was just a coincidence.
“I think you really are the best hope for Germany.” *NPR
“too much focus on past guilt” — just two days before Holocaust Remembrance Day *CBS
Ugh yeah, I’m an Uber driver and it being a cheap EV that also qualifies for comfort rides would really make my life better but I just can’t support the Nazi. I’m kinda jazzed about the slate truck, but I’m sure it’s bad for leftists someway somehow. Living under the thumb of capitalism is tough
Bezos put money into this project, but it seems that he no longer has any representation on the board.
Hey, wanna say 🤝 for being principled even when money is on the line, unlike some other responses in this thread.
And I agree that the Slate looks cool af. 👍
Does a Hyundai qualify? I just got one of the Ioniq cars for a great deal and in my opinion, beats Tesla in every category.
My Hyundai EV is honestly very great, I got the kona
I’m not familiar with it. But what’s its front-on visibility like? How many children can sit in a line in front of it before you can see them? How tall would someone have to be before a crash results in someone being knocked over the car, rather than being run over? (The former being generally much safer.) The problem with many of these types of vehicles that Americans call “trucks” is that their insanely tall bonnets make them insanely dangerous to pedestrians and cyclists—especially children.
It seems like it’s slightly lower profile than a Ford Maverick and doesn’t seem to employee the sloped hood shape that’s better when it’s between the 30in-40in range. Which it doesn’t appear to be in. I’m kind of leaning towards the ionique? Ionic? The Hyundai. The other issue I’m working with is that I have a tall frame and sitting in a sedan all day is pretty uncomfortable which makes driving longer hours intolerable. Knock on wood I haven’t hit any pedestrians but I do do a lot of driving and it’s entirely possible that’s because of driving a sedan where I can see. It is a worthwhile consideration. But it would be nice. So many considerations
Just looking at the Maverick online, it seems a fairly obscenely tall bonnet in the 2022 models, but older models are much more reasonable.
I think it’s spelt Ioniq. They’re a brand I quite like, and looking at their recent lineup (I think the last time I looked at them was like 2021), the Ioniq 3, 5, and 7 all seem really good. The 9 stretches things a bit, but is still a hell of a lot better than the Maverick 2022.
You should do just the most basic research to understand how prejudgemental you are being. 👍
I’m not being prejudgmental, I’m asking a question, and explaining the reason the question is relevant.
This looks great, but it seems it’s part owned by bezos? No thanks.
At least if someone drives a brand-new Tesla. I can kinda sympathise a little bit with people who bought theirs a couple of years ago before Elmo’s antics became really obvious and are now struggling to get rid of it.
I give a pass to most Tesla’s because I don’t know much about cars. The cyber dumpster drivers knew full well who he was before buying their Swasticars, and they get to see my social finger at every opportunity.
Also, the cybertruck is objectively garbage on every front.
It failed at its original design, it failed at its current design, it failed at range, it failed at tow capacity, and more. It is objectively the worst vehicle in the sector it’s trying to claim it is in.
Subjectively…fuck all of it.
I stopped giving a pass to most Tesla driver a couple of months ago when I realized they’ve all had plenty of time to sell their cars
If Subaru starts committing genocide, selling my car now isn’t going to hurt them, only me.
I thought you meant this Subaru
And was likw “hold on, i didn’t knew he made cars”
Last Season spoiler of Re:Zero
Yeah, okay, it’s plausible a genocide atp, but a car?!
No, but selling your car in about a year, after you’ve had time to prepare shouldn’t be too big if a deal, right? It’s not about boycotting, it’s about having some kind of line that you draw in the sand and say “No more”.
Let’s go through a list of products you use and see how many are created by evil people. Very easy game to play.
Obviously you can’t do that, there no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism. Regardless, there are choices you can make. I have never will never eat a a Chick filet, for example. You have to have SOME line
Spoiler: probably half the companies you pay things for support israel and the other 1/4 is israeli which commits a genocide
Selling a Tesla to another owner solves nothing, now you have a new owner you are hounding to sell it
It solves the “You are not a Nazi but own a Nazi car” problem. Who gives a shit who you sell it to?
The next person could unwitting buy it not knowing the elon Nazi thing. I think you over estimate the general publics awareness of what goes on.
It solves nothing. Future sales should be the target.
Well, then I hope your little bumper sticker prevents your swasticar from getting keyed and I’m glad you’ve found a way to sleep well at night.
Wrong guy, I still have a gas car
My car is 8 years old and paid off. I’m sorry we didn’t have many options 8 years ago and we didn’t know who he was. I’m glad I have an EV now because gas is crazy and my electricity is $0.13/kWh vs $5.50 for gas, even though I barely drive it since I live in a city now and take public transit, but my wife uses it to drive to work. I am not going to buy another tesla if we ever need another car.
But there’s no point in selling a car that we use at a loss right now. I don’t give him any money besides long distance trips with the superchargers, but every new EV uses the Tesla super chargers now.
At least disable data collection.
You’ll never not sell a car at a loss
Saying “my principles have a price tag on them” sounded bad.
Um where have you been? With chip shortage and supply chain issues the dealers were phoning people up and offering more than they paid to get cars back.
A friend drove a van for 2 years and dealer bought it back over new price. . Used cars have been crazy prices too. A car you’d have paid $1800 for 6 years ago is now $6000 even with six years more
I feel like most of the commenters in this thread would have an aneurysm if they took a drive on Norwegian roads.
My friend has a Tesla. He is absolutely this person.
I bought mine before he went crazy. He has tweets after I purchased bragging about scoring high on lgbtq equality. Further, mine has lifetime free supercharging. The longer I have it the more I cost tesla money.
He was always a shitty person. Even in his adolescence.
He made fun of his classmate because his classmates father committed suicide. That classmate responded by shoving him down the stairs. Which honestly should have happened more.
He was always rotten to the core.
That may be, but that wasn’t really well known then. Hell I haven’t heard anything you claimed above until now.
Behind the Bastards did a segment on him about 7 or so years ago, which is how I found out about how shitty he was when he was younger.
This article I found on the stairwell incident:
https://www.news24.com/business/economy/elon-musk-made-hurtful-comment-to-fellow-pupil-who-left-him-hospitalised-father-says-20220602
We were this fucking close to answering the “What if baby Hitler was killed” question.
He has always had some pretty shitty opinions about things and a shitty way of doing business. Tesla was basically stolen by Musk from the guys who founded it, then he tried to rewrite Tesla history and label himself as the soul founder, at which point the actual founders had to sue him to maintain their founder status, and that was all in 2009, so unless you tell me that you bought the Roadster in 2008, I have a really hard time believing you. Or you’re one of those people that don’t care about things until it’s literally shoved in your face. But I digress. Sure you didn’t know.
But what’s stopping you from selling the one you have now, since you do know, now?
Because, as mentioned in my initial comment, it costs tesla money the longer I have it. If I sell it, the free supercharging won’t go with it. While it’s mine I can choose where to get repairs and avoid tesla service centers. That’s not a guarantee if I sell it.
You’re keeping it to protect it from the real Nazis? Come on, dude. You have done mental summersault to avoid selling your swasticar.
Tesla Roadster was just a Lotus with a retrofit electric motor. Without Elons cash they wouldn’t have become what they are today. In effect he helped found a viable production car instead of staying as an aftermarket retro fit of another manufacturers car.
He’s an absolute asshole douche, but I’m glad he brought Tesla to where it is, it forced all other ICE manufacturers to take EVs seriously.
You bought yours before 2018? Because that’s the cut-off for when supporting anything Musk does was acceptable. Butting his way into an emergency situation offering “help” that lacked any awareness of what was actually needed, and getting so butthurt when told he wasn’t helping that he accused the heroes actually saving children’s lives of being paedophiles, and hiring PIs to try and track down dirt on them to that effect, is inexcusable. And then lying to a court to pretend that calling someone a paedophile is not a serious insult in South Africa, in order to win the defamation suit.
It was a prominent enough news event that unlike his many flaws from before then, Tesla owners cannot reasonably claim ignorance after 2018.
But anyone who genuinely did buy their Tesla before then is fine in my books. As winkerjadams says, selling your car now won’t hurt them. Not enough to matter, anyway. (In theory, more people selling might reduce the resale value, which will reduce incentive for people to buy new, reducing Tesla’s value. But I suspect that’s a miniscule effect in the EV market.)
Yes. I bought it before his “pedo guy” tweet.
I had a coworker that regularly pressures other people to buy Tesla. He succeeded in convincing two of his friends as well as his own daughter.