• i_love_FFT@jlai.lu
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    9 hours ago

    Ever since snap arrived, I switched to Debian.

    The only thing I dislike about Debian is that there is no “server/headless install image” available, so it’s not a big deal.

    • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
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      8 hours ago

      I’m spinning up a vm right now just for you, but I think the netinstall allows bare, DE less

      https://imgur.com/a/3OWiULh

      https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/

      EDIT : I did a dump of the 200+ packages it has, but IDK how to get it out of there… oh wait.

      EDIT 2 :

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      • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
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        8 hours ago

        @i_love_FFT@jlai.lu

        I modified my reply, here’s the rest of the packages.

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        I think you can also just uninstall them… or not.

        WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed.
        This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing!
          perl-base
                                                                   
        Summary:
          Upgrading: 0, Installing: 0, Removing: 112, Not Upgrading: 0
          Freed space: 249 MB
        
        Error: Removing essential system-critical packages is not permitted. This might break the system.
        

        IDK. I’ve done enough with this stuff for a bit… and I am able to say I tried out DWM to post this after :D