Today, lovely Windows 11 installed an update. And since then I don’t have internet access because Microslop Wincrap 11 can somehow magically no longer connect to the DNS server - to any DNS server. No other device in my network has the same issue. I’ve been bugfixing for over an hour and haven’t found a solution. setting the DNS manually, resetting the network adapter, flushed all DNS entries (I used the commandline tool on Windows!). nothing works.
I don’t have ANY more patience with W11!
I already tried Linux. I’m using Ubuntu Server for hosting Nextcloud and Fedora just to play around.
Do you prefer Fedora or Ubuntu? I have an old Thinkpad…
(And no, I will not go down the rabbit hole of Arch ;-) At least not for now.)
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Fedora is wonderful. I would not recommend Ubuntu to anyone. Fuck Canonical, who fancy themselves the next Microsoft.
For an easy version of Arch, try Cachy.
Thank you all for the many replies!
I’ll summarize it as followed:
- Ubumtu: one does not use Ubuntu any more
- Linux Mint: always a good start
- Fedora: also always good and would be good for a Thinkpad
- Bazzite for gaming
- Gnome really is not for everyone
Since I already tried Fedora, I’m going with Linux Mint for the moment.
(In fact, the installation of Mint is running right now and I’m using the whole SSD, no windows boot manager partition will survive!!!)
Linux Mint: always a good start
Started and stopped there, I love it and never even think about windows anymore
LMDE or ubuntu based? I’d recommend LMDE over ubuntu based
Ubuntu? What is this, 2008?
Fedora
Im using linux Mint. no issues so far, except maybe dropbox integration. never going back to microslop
Love Linux Mint. I switched to LMDE, stable as a rock. PC came with windows installed. Removed crapware immediately.
I think the standard recommendation for people coming from windows is to try Linux Mint. It’s Ubuntu based, but the interface is more windows like, which helps easy the transition. The transition is also easied if you’ve been using open source alternatives on windows or the linux for windows subsystem. Anything to keep the amount you have to learn at once relatively low.
I wish you the best on linux, but if you find the interface differences are too much for you and decide to go back to windows, try these other things to make switching to linux later easier. As fanatical as the linux community is, there’s no shame in needing a longer more gradual transition.
Don’t settle immediately. If you can spare the time, distro hop for a few weeks / months. On the shorter run of things, give each OS you try a good week before moving on to the next. All distros do essentially the same thing, they just flavor it diffetently. Do you like typing apt, or dnf, pacman or yum? Do you prefer being deep in CLI or prefer using an application store? How do you like your userspace to look? Shiny? Bubbly? Classic? Retro? GNOME, Plasma, Xfce, Mate, Cosmic?
There’s enough options out there to make your head spin. Without touching arch, you should at least visit the following -
Little Champs
- Mint
- Zorin
- Endeavour
- Pop OS
Big Champs
- Fedora KDE (or any of its “spins” https://fedoraproject.org/spins/)
- Ubuntu (and its corresponding “flavors” https://ubuntu.com/desktop/flavors)
- Debian
- Arch (just one of the four main pillars)
Gaming focus
- Bazzite (fedora)
- Nobara (fedora)
- Cachy (arch)
Give each or those that pique your interest a fair shake. A week at the minimum. Some you may not need a week, some you’ll find yourself in a natural swing of things. You’ll know when you know.
fedora > ubuntu
personally, i like the ublue images, at least for general desktop and gaming - bluefin and bazzite.
Echoing everyone else, Mint. Bazzite (which is Fedora based) if you’re planning to run more recent games on it. Mint isn’t bad at running games by any means, Bazzite is just more fine tuned towards it. With Cinnamon/KDE they basically feel like Windows minus the bloat.
Highly recommend Fedora over Ubuntu.
Ubuntu Server and Desktop has some dumb defaults that look measly next to Windows, but still annoying next to Fedora.
Fedora also generally has more solid documentation without a bunch of LTS slag threads with outdated answers.
I am a Debian man myself for servers. I don’t want any Canonical bullshit to break mid LTS.
While I am still running win 10 I am undecided which desktop to switch to. CachyOS and Fedora are the front runners but man do I hate Gnome.
Debian for everything.
I am running Fedora with KDE.
I use cachyOS with kde plasma on wayland right now and would recommend.
I’m scared of Arch and cachyOS was the easiest OS install and config I’ve probably ever done. Maybe OSX was easier, but that’s it. It’s sooooo good, and I had zero issues getting everything working perfectly.
Fedora had three big issues and many small. Fedora was actually the worst to get going. My hardcore difficult use cases include playing a video file from my NAS, seeing the music library on there, changing the desktop theme without it going crazy, and not having the aux jack send a huge horrible pop noise to whatever is plugged in when the sound device constantly goes to low power mode.
Both cachy and fedora on the same exact model of machine, both at the same time (two machines, hardware is perfect, also windows 10 LTSC IoT dual boots to them both which worked… as well as windows works I suppose, good enough)
You don’t have to use Gnome on Cachy or Fedora. Fedora has spins for nearly every DE, and Cachy also has an option for nearly every DE on install.
I’m not a big fan of Gnome on Fedora either. Everything is just so big and needs so much space. CachyOS is a tad to new for my taste for using it as a daily driver.
why not fedora KDE? it is a full edition now and a really smooth experience
Seconding Fedora KDE. But if you’re not a fan, you could also opt for many of the other supported desktops (cinnamon, XFCE, etc.)
Cinnamon is the way to go if you have finicky peripherals like Razen keyboard/mouse or a Wacom tablet.
Another vote for Fedora KDE. But I’ll add get the atomic version (Kinoite).
CatchyOS being bleeding edge has actually alleviated a lot of my complaints with Ubuntu/Fedora. Sometimes I really want that brand new shiny thing. And so far I haven’t had too many issues with Catchy breaking. Granted I only run it on my testing laptop not my main machine.
Debian is perfectly good on the desktop too
CachyOS and Fedora are the front runners but man do I hate Gnome.
Plenty of good KDE distros out there. And it’s often possible to install KDE on a Gnome-default system.
Don’t know about CatchyOS or Fedora, but on Ubuntu, the command was
sudo apt install KDE-full… then just restart and it boots into KDE no problem.(Yes, I know Kubuntu exists. But Kubuntu didn’t support ZFS on root during install, while mainline Ubuntu did. So I suffered through using Gnome just long enough to open a terminal and type in that command, followed by
reboot.)
Kubuntu has been pretty nice to me. It has the beginner friendliness of Ubuntu and the modern desktop of KDE
Any distro > Ubuntu > Qubes (not for beginners haha)
Bazzite on my gaming machine, Bluefin on my other machines. Both are Fedora Atomic based (meaning read-only kernel). Secure, stable, amazing. Apps are installed via Flatpak, and cli tools using Homebrew.
I’ve been a full time Linux user for 25ish years now. I’m currently happy here, but have tried most of them
I’ve been on Bazzite for like 2 years now, and I’ve never (purposely) used Brew. What kinds of things do you use it for?
Not a whole ton truthfully. If you run ‘brew list’, you’ll see a lot of things already installed via Homebrew. The main one I install explicitly is ‘yt-dlp’, and I’ve played with llama.cpp and similar too
Hmmm, I use yt-dlp but forget exactly how I installed it. Definitely not flatpak, definitely not distrobox, and I’m pretty sure I never layered it.
App image maybe?
Edit: I think I literally just downloaded the Linux binary?
Hmmm, I use yt-dlp but forget exactly how I installed it. Definitely not flatpak, definitely not distrobox, and I’m pretty sure I never layered it.
from pip? that’s how I have yewtube
I used to download their binary from github and put in /usr/local/bin
Hoembrew will update that now whenever I update my system so I don’t think about it anymore.Hmmm, I guess I’ve just been running an outdated version of it for a while then.
