• RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    Well, sure. China invests in many countries, improving infrastructure and the like, while also extracting resources. The US just pays a dictator who then skims even more off the top while beating up the citizens and forcing them to work hazardous resource extraction for little money.

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      5 hours ago

      China may improve infrastructure in exchange for exclusive access to rare earth metal mines and other natural resources.

      They are basically colonizing Africa and developing countries.

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        while also extracting resources

        That’s what I said.

        Even if they are “colonizing”, they’re doing a far better and more equitable job of it than the Western world’s treating them like peasantry to be exploited.

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            I didn’t say it was good. I said it was better than the despot-creating tactics the Western world has been using for more than a century. You do understand that it can be better than before but not a good thing overall at the same time, right?

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      10 hours ago

      I don’t think people who answer questionnaires of “which empire you fancy more” are that into international macroeconomics.

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      Improving infra with bad quality that needs to be maintained at a higher rate than domestic stuff.

      So many road repairs in Germany had to be redone because the bids were done by foreign nations and they half-assed it.
      Because why should they care after completing the contract ᕕ(ᐛ)ᕗ

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          Both are shit. But domestic ones can be held responsible for the shit they produced.
          Try that with foreign ones. Especially chinese or russians. They will tell you to fuck off or change their names and join the bidding war under a different contractor name.

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              You can dislike companies incorporated with certain countries legal systems without any consideration for race.

              Russians and Chinese companies can be multi racial and still use their government’s and provided legal structures as shields for fraud in other countries shrug

              • I think the bigger criminals on the global stage in terms of lives impacted are the western companies that hide behind their governments and provided legal structure.

                There is no reason to think that a chinese or russian foreign contractor would do a worse job than any other contractor simply because they’re russian or chinese, other than racism.

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              Who else does global projects (on the scale of China) and gives you the middle finger if any disputes come up?
              I hear of that way often about China or Russia than the US.

              Example for Russia (can’t link to the header):
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCP_Foundation -> Legal disputes -> Trademark disputes

              So…no. Just experiences on what I read about online and in newspapers.
              It’s just that my western media highlights those disputes more prominent than not.

              Can you give me examples on countries that like to do the same in the west?
              Example: Japan contractors fucking with China and giving them the bird when it goes to shit.

              PS:
              It’s xenophobic, not racist.

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                I’d mention KTM, but I wouldn’t be shocked if you were also racist against Indians so how about ExxonMobil poisoning the living shit out of various South American countries and literally having people suing them thrown in prison?

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                  Honestly: Fuck off with your own prejudices if you want to correct mine.

                  Now to your example: Mentioning the US is cheating. :p
                  They are equally as bad.

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                    We wouldn’t want to be prejudiced against racists by assuming they’re racist against other groups would we.

                    Now to your example: Mentioning the US is cheating. :p

                    OK, Nestle. BP. Bayer.

              • No you allege that this is something russian and chinese companies do, as in them being russian or chinese makes them somehow shiftier. There is no reason to bring the nation of certain companies into this if you don’t think that russian or chinese people are more prone to this sort of behavior. That’s racist.

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        Some of these countries can’t afford infrastructure at all. Even if your opinion is correct, do you think they’d prefer having no infrastructure vs having some that needs maintenance? And let’s not hold their investment to Western European standards, that’s ridiculous to compare countries possibly climbing out of a century or more of problems both internal and external to what wealthy Europeans have.

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          Hmmm…Dirt road you can keep up at a reasonable level but drive slow vs pothole street.
          Economic boom vs slow growth.

          Life has many facettes. No single answer to them all.
          Especially not mine as I have never experienced that as a whole.
          If the local community supports it, they deserve it.