Sounds like the nurses who were laid off were doing a lot of “backend” stuff (talking to insurance, data entry, etc). If the AI was coming in and doing those jobs, freeing up the nurses to work more directly with patients, I could see a good argument for it. But no, they had to let the nurses go, which is just greedy and stupid as fuck given the nursing shortage.
Sounds more like the nurses were fired in retaliation for participating in a strike led by their union and the hospital is trying to make it seem like they did it because AI made their jobs irrelevant.
From what I read it looked like the nurses mainly worked in patient discharge, which isn’t really a job that AI could realistically do. Half the time there isn’t really a lot of information that would be accessible, a lot of the info would be entered after discharge when the attending provider is doing their notes.
As the nurses regularly have mentioned, even if they were kept on doing patient stuff, you still don’t want AI making healthcare decisions or in charge of healthcare documents.
Yesss… we could hire more nurses with the time and money savings of A.I., but instead let’s just fire them and make more money. Doesn’t this kind of prove that the nursing shortage is manufactured? They had the option here to help improve the situation but deliberately chose profits every time
It’s really not obvious, and I still don’t fully understand what you’re actually trying to say. My comment was pointing out that it’s unlikely they’ll use those freed resources to hire more nurses, in response to other comments pointing out the nursing crisis. I’m guessing you disagree with me, and are expressing it in a roundabout way.
Of course everyone who disagrees with you is automatically a troll.
But: a nursing shortage is when there are not enough nurses for the number of sick and needy patients. In other words, hospitals and care facilities throughout the US can’t find enough nursing staff to fill out the positions that they need given the amount of patients that they have, i.e. a nursing shortage.
Saving money with AI and being able to hire more nurses but taking the stupid decision to fire them, doesn’t mean the nursing shortage is manufactured, like you posed. The nursing shortage is still, in fact, very real and a problem of an aging population and not enough people getting into nursing.
Execs being greedy does not prove the shortage isn’t there.
And maybe you will find that sealioning and calling people lazy earns you the title of troll more often. So maybe if you don’t want that try to avoid such behaviour.
Sounds like the nurses who were laid off were doing a lot of “backend” stuff (talking to insurance, data entry, etc). If the AI was coming in and doing those jobs, freeing up the nurses to work more directly with patients, I could see a good argument for it. But no, they had to let the nurses go, which is just greedy and stupid as fuck given the nursing shortage.
I still wouldn’t trust AI to do that stuff. That’s how you end up killing and maiming patients.
“You’re absolutely correct, that patient was allergic to penicillin.”
Sounds more like the nurses were fired in retaliation for participating in a strike led by their union and the hospital is trying to make it seem like they did it because AI made their jobs irrelevant.
From what I read it looked like the nurses mainly worked in patient discharge, which isn’t really a job that AI could realistically do. Half the time there isn’t really a lot of information that would be accessible, a lot of the info would be entered after discharge when the attending provider is doing their notes.
As the nurses regularly have mentioned, even if they were kept on doing patient stuff, you still don’t want AI making healthcare decisions or in charge of healthcare documents.
Yesss… we could hire more nurses with the time and money savings of A.I., but instead let’s just fire them and make more money. Doesn’t this kind of prove that the nursing shortage is manufactured? They had the option here to help improve the situation but deliberately chose profits every time
We need to keep people employed, firing all these people that do “back end” work is still taking jobs away. How far can it go?
Those two things are not mutually exclusive
I don’t get your point. There was like 8 things in my comment, which ones were not mutually exclusive?
Well, you asked only one question
Ok, so one question equals two things being mutually exclusive? This has to be the laziest attempt to start an argument I’ve seen on Lemmy so far
You’ve got to be a troll…. This is completely obvious, but in the rare case you’re really not trolling:
Thing 1:
Thing 2:
Question:
Answer: (no), those two things are not mutually exclusive.
It’s really not obvious, and I still don’t fully understand what you’re actually trying to say. My comment was pointing out that it’s unlikely they’ll use those freed resources to hire more nurses, in response to other comments pointing out the nursing crisis. I’m guessing you disagree with me, and are expressing it in a roundabout way.
Of course everyone who disagrees with you is automatically a troll.
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That’s a bit of a you problem.
But: a nursing shortage is when there are not enough nurses for the number of sick and needy patients. In other words, hospitals and care facilities throughout the US can’t find enough nursing staff to fill out the positions that they need given the amount of patients that they have, i.e. a nursing shortage.
Saving money with AI and being able to hire more nurses but taking the stupid decision to fire them, doesn’t mean the nursing shortage is manufactured, like you posed. The nursing shortage is still, in fact, very real and a problem of an aging population and not enough people getting into nursing.
Execs being greedy does not prove the shortage isn’t there.
And maybe you will find that sealioning and calling people lazy earns you the title of troll more often. So maybe if you don’t want that try to avoid such behaviour.