Early last week, I was at the Theodore Roosevelt Presidential Library for its first weekend. At the library itself, despite President Donald Trump inserting himself incongruously into the opening ceremonies, I did not see a single person sporting a Trump-branded clothing item.

The town of Medora, North Dakota, itself was, however, a different story. It wasn’t overwhelming. But for someone who lives in an urban center of a blue state, where even in the ruby red rural areas most people have become sufficiently shamed to shut up about their MAGA tendencies, a single errant MAGA cap is a rarity.

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    When stuff like this happens, which it occasionally does, you’re not going to know about it, because you do not live here. Our press is not going to report it, because we live under real fascism, not pretend fascism from TV.

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      Again, not exactly true. I’ve seen some good protests. I saw ICE shoot people.

      So someone’s producing news. Not that it matters, we can’t change it, only US citizens can.

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        Well, no, actually, we probably can’t. Hitler fell because of the Allied Forces, not because Jews and Poles banded together to beat him up.

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          The thing with Hitler is that there’s a template to learn from.

          Hitler should have been dealt with a lot earlier than what he was. Hitler also governed a very different population and situation at the time. America isn’t where it is because it was held hostage by taxing war agreements and governed by oppressive outside influence…it’s a bunch of over indulgent and privileged arseholes being exploited.

          The Germans didn’t know what was coming really. American do, and not only that they gave it a trial run.

          The only similarities are the political ideology, not the countries themselves. Americans can still stop this if they want.

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            Trump won because the Electoral College thought a “strong Republican President” was “what the country needed.” There is absolutely nothing I or anyone in my social class could have done to influence this decision.

            The difference between the Third Reich and America is that Germans had some small influence over who they elected in the form of votes that were actually counted.

            No, Americans in general cannot decide who the president is. Our presidential elections are theater and have been since slavery was abolished.

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              So if that’s the case, how did Biden manage to win? Did the Republicans let him?

              Did they let Clinton win?

              Nope, if enough turn out to vote, the US will get the president they want.

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                Biden won because the electoral college wanted him to win. He belongs to the same social class as Trump.

                Yes, they let Clinton win.

                No, it doesn’t matter who we vote for. The only options are their people, and then they get to disregard which of their people that we pick if they want to.

                “Voting won’t help” isn’t the same thing as giving up, but it is an acknowledgment of our reality.