Well if the followup doubling down post about the situation is to be believed, that basically is the case. The cat is out of the bag, and taking the filter down would allow “violent crazies” to impede upon the “Tesseract experience,” after all.
The fact that they turned off commenting on it is funny. Like how much of a snowflake do you think it is a good idea to instead of using a block button to use a hidden code to force other users to follow your own thinking. How unsecured they seem.
It’s streisanding like crazy as a result. If he’d allowed comments all the crazy would be on his posts. But he’s disallowed so now the discussion is happening EVERYWHERE else in thousands of posts on all instances
Other folks’ consent was simply less important than their need to secretly silence others with malware. The worst part about it is I could envision a plan where this list was broken up into various categories, and with a little bit of good rhetoric, could’ve convinced a percentage of people to willingly give them some control over their feed. It could’ve been fully transparent with some simple toggles, they would’ve got some power, and their reputation wouldn’t be in the gutter. Not exactly the ideal person to trust to make your auto blacklist(s), but hey, that’d be a vastly different conversation than the one that’s happening now.
If it was really just crazy users and maybe some crazy instances, I would be more willing to give the benefit of the doubt (assuming they changed it, which they are not). But the “perchance” block… Blocking Blahaj entirely… I have a very difficult time accepting this is anything but a personal grudge.
They could’ve only blacklisted the worst of the worst (whatever you believe that to be) and it still would’ve been unacceptable, because they did so without the knowledge or consent of anyone using the software. The quality of the blacklist is also bad, but the lack of choice and transparency is what matters to me. I say that as someone who also had their entire instance blocked, probably because posting anthro images is “undesirable” to “normies.” I think talking about the pettiness and potential bigotry of the list misses the forest for the trees, because deploying malware on other servers is unacceptable no matter what the reason is.
You don’t get to conceal code and execute it as a treat, just because you think your reasoning is good. That’s quite literally how we got here in the first place.
Looks like they’re tripping down now if you go to dubvee.org.
Unsurprising they’re saying others are doing darvo, and even angry at lemmy.world admins for not listening to rimu trying to get most of the fediverse blocked.
If he wanted to be a mod, then he should have done mod shit. You can’t make a neutral product as a developer and then code it like a mod. The fact that he doesn’t see the problem is the problem.
I don’t care that he made a ban list. I don’t care that I’m on it. I care that he sold a window into the community for others without telling the people using that window that he erased huge chunks of the community at large. Regardless of his opinions, that is what he did.
To do what? Gentrify Lemmy? You can’t come into Tortuga and try to sell it as a resort by putting a tarp over the pirates mate.
I do feel bad they’re getting harassing DMs and death threats though, that is taking it too far. But I don’t know what sort of reaction they expected from doing something so underhanded and then taking the high road after.
Oh yeah, that’s fucked up. The kind of people who make that big of a deal out of it, enough to send threats, are reinforcing his reasoning. It sucks that he’s stuck inside the meat grinder now, but he did throw himself in.
He starts off the second post by blaming the audience for not wanting an explanation, otherwise he would answer questions. I’m saying that’s hypocritical because the comments are shut down.
I’d link to it but don’t want to give that comms mod more ammunition to ban, especially as it’s their favorite activity in the news comm or when people are pointing out the comparisons between what’s happening now in Palestine to what happened in nazi Germany.
We’ll just say it’s an apps comm in my comment history who is saying they only removed a thread there because too many people used the word nazi while the mod log reasoning was misinformation (because the dev restored or unprivated the git repo)
Well if the followup doubling down post about the situation is to be believed, that basically is the case. The cat is out of the bag, and taking the filter down would allow “violent crazies” to impede upon the “Tesseract experience,” after all.
The fact that they turned off commenting on it is funny. Like how much of a snowflake do you think it is a good idea to instead of using a block button to use a hidden code to force other users to follow your own thinking. How unsecured they seem.
It’s streisanding like crazy as a result. If he’d allowed comments all the crazy would be on his posts. But he’s disallowed so now the discussion is happening EVERYWHERE else in thousands of posts on all instances
Other folks’ consent was simply less important than their need to secretly silence others with malware. The worst part about it is I could envision a plan where this list was broken up into various categories, and with a little bit of good rhetoric, could’ve convinced a percentage of people to willingly give them some control over their feed. It could’ve been fully transparent with some simple toggles, they would’ve got some power, and their reputation wouldn’t be in the gutter. Not exactly the ideal person to trust to make your auto blacklist(s), but hey, that’d be a vastly different conversation than the one that’s happening now.
If it was really just crazy users and maybe some crazy instances, I would be more willing to give the benefit of the doubt (assuming they changed it, which they are not). But the “perchance” block… Blocking Blahaj entirely… I have a very difficult time accepting this is anything but a personal grudge.
They could’ve only blacklisted the worst of the worst (whatever you believe that to be) and it still would’ve been unacceptable, because they did so without the knowledge or consent of anyone using the software. The quality of the blacklist is also bad, but the lack of choice and transparency is what matters to me. I say that as someone who also had their entire instance blocked, probably because posting anthro images is “undesirable” to “normies.” I think talking about the pettiness and potential bigotry of the list misses the forest for the trees, because deploying malware on other servers is unacceptable no matter what the reason is.
You don’t get to conceal code and execute it as a treat, just because you think your reasoning is good. That’s quite literally how we got here in the first place.
There’s been an another doubling down with an extra edit to double the downing: https://lemmy.today/post/57202811
Looks like they’re tripping down now if you go to dubvee.org.
Unsurprising they’re saying others are doing darvo, and even angry at lemmy.world admins for not listening to rimu trying to get most of the fediverse blocked.
If he wanted to be a mod, then he should have done mod shit. You can’t make a neutral product as a developer and then code it like a mod. The fact that he doesn’t see the problem is the problem.
I don’t care that he made a ban list. I don’t care that I’m on it. I care that he sold a window into the community for others without telling the people using that window that he erased huge chunks of the community at large. Regardless of his opinions, that is what he did.
To do what? Gentrify Lemmy? You can’t come into Tortuga and try to sell it as a resort by putting a tarp over the pirates mate.
I wanna make snide remarks but I’m convinced this is a mental health thing now.
Exactly. And hope they are actually logged out not still going around commenting with a startrek alt
oh no! If I’m shadow banned from the trek communities I might actually be upset. I need my trek memes!
I do feel bad they’re getting harassing DMs and death threats though, that is taking it too far. But I don’t know what sort of reaction they expected from doing something so underhanded and then taking the high road after.
Oh yeah, that’s fucked up. The kind of people who make that big of a deal out of it, enough to send threats, are reinforcing his reasoning. It sucks that he’s stuck inside the meat grinder now, but he did throw himself in.
O irony
It reads like no one gave them a chance to open a dialogue on a post where they shut down the dialogue.
Could you clarify?
The previous post was a monologue from the get go, it was explicitly created with the comment section muzzled
He starts off the second post by blaming the audience for not wanting an explanation, otherwise he would answer questions. I’m saying that’s hypocritical because the comments are shut down.
Yeah, that’s what i was hoping you meant. What he’s clearly complaining about is people don’t want to countenance his unrepentant violation.
Completely unsurprising they are still blaming everyone else and doing no self reflection.
Along with the only place they attempted to explain themselves was removed by a mod that seems to want to protect the person and or tesseract
Edit, oh and they’ve done another follow up post in response to continue anger at users for not liking the shit tesseract does
Where was that?
I’d link to it but don’t want to give that comms mod more ammunition to ban, especially as it’s their favorite activity in the news comm or when people are pointing out the comparisons between what’s happening now in Palestine to what happened in nazi Germany.
We’ll just say it’s an apps comm in my comment history who is saying they only removed a thread there because too many people used the word nazi while the mod log reasoning was misinformation (because the dev restored or unprivated the git repo)
Oh good ol’ geddy
Oh and they nuked that thread as well so guess doesn’t matter
They pinky promise swear they don’t let their biases influence their moderation actions…