• plyth@feddit.org
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    1 day ago

    This turns the EU into the USE. Without veto power, the elite can make sure that there is always a majority for their goals. Rich people will take over the EU, like they took over the US. Merz is too closely linked to the USA as to not deeply question which other effects besides preventing another Hungary this change will bring.

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      The same can be said the other way round and is already the case. With the current veto power Hungary acts as a Russian proxy and blocks as many important desicions as possible.

      I agree that it doesn’t help the corruption issues we already have and I think a simple majority shouldn’t be enough. But removing the veto power in favor of a supermajority of like 85-90% would make it feasible to stop dickheads like Orban without compromising too much. (Let’s face it, if you bought 90% of the EU, the last 10% shouldn’t be that big of an issue either).

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        The decisions are only important because some want to turn the EU into a country whereas the EU could keep going without the need for further decisions. All other countries could have ignored Hungary and do whatever they wanted since they are souvereign countries. There was no need to act as the EU.

        Let’s face it, if you bought 90% of the EU, the last 10% shouldn’t be that big of an issue either

        Or they are and that’s why we are going to change the rules.

        The EU started as an American project.

        He saw West Germany (and the other member states of the European Economic Community) as vassalized by Washington. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Élysée_Treaty

        Did the EU become independent or was de Gaulle wrong?

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          16 hours ago

          All other countries could have ignored Hungary and do whatever they wanted since they are souvereign countries. There was no need to act as the EU.

          If you completely ignore the fact that Hungary was blocking the release of EU funds, and those don’t just magically reappear in your national budget if the EU doesn’t use them…

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            5 hours ago

            those don’t just magically reappear

            They do. If Hungary blocks the EU fund then the money is not spent and the countries can borrow more money because the risk for the lenders doesn’t increase.

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          17 hours ago

          The decisions are only important because some want to turn the EU into a country whereas the EU could keep going without the need for further decisions. All other countries could have ignored Hungary and do whatever they wanted since they are souvereign countries.

          No, the decisions are important because this way you present EU as an unified block and it has way more bargaining power that every single state. Look at what happened with Brexit

          There was no need to act as the EU.

          Then there is no need for EU, if every country can go for itself.

          The EU started as an American project.

          The EU started because after WWII people in Europe decided that maybe, just maybe, to have a war that destroy the continent every 40 years is not a good idea, after all.

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            5 hours ago

            Look at what happened with Brexit

            What happened that shows that the EU countries outside the EU structure don’t have their united power if they choose to act together?

            Then there is no need for EU, if every country can go for itself.

            The opposite. There is no need for the EU if all countries just work together.

            The EU started because …

            Please read the paragraph of the Wikipedia article around my quote.