• AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    2 days ago

    Do you think people don’t have egos or fears that cause them to horde things Cowbee? Or are you just here to shadow box comments again.

    Nothing about logical conclusions. No 100 page dissertations about the beginnings of human history.

    All i was saying is that peoples’ egos and fears seem to be in direct opposition to a fully communist type of government.

      • AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        2 days ago

        That’s perfect honestly, thank you. I think hoarding is also driven by scarcity, but fear as well. And that even if we eliminated scarcity, some people would still feel compelled to hoarde.

        We just have to agree to disagree here, at least that’s where I’m at. Maybe if we got rid of scarcity nobody would feel the need to hoarde, but I’m not so sure.

        • Maeve@kbin.earth
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          2 days ago

          If humans can be conditioned to fear and greed, they can be re-conditioned to relative security and sharing. It would take reconditioning societies and economic models, first.

          • AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 day ago

            We weren’t conditioned to feel fear tho. A baby hears a loud crack of thunder and starts crying, why? Nobody taught the baby to be afraid of thunder.

            Even if we could somehow recondition every member of society perfectly, that innate fear would always remain. That’s where we are differing it seems

            • Maeve@kbin.earth
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              22 hours ago

              So you’re telling me a beaten child or dog isn’t conditioned to feeling fear.

              What, exactly do you think PTSD, c-PTSD, dissociative disorder, personality disorders and any number of other diagnoses are? They’re certainly not innate.

              Edit to add, do you still cry when your meals are delayed, or your stomach aches?

              No. You’ve come to accept (you’ve been conditioned) and understand you will eat again, a discomfort will pass.

        • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          2 days ago

          We can see already that people do not tend to hoard that which isn’t scarce, and further even if someone tried, we do not need to allow it.