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    12 hours ago

    Because there’s no political or popular will to do anything about it. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink; that doesn’t mean water is useless.

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        I mean obviously, but with popular will you’ll want everything to give your cause an edge—hence the guns. It’s possible to have popular will and still fail, so factors that give the rebellion (or just plain old resistance, see: Black Panthers) an edge are going to be necessary. In recent history, the Houthis definitely benefited from having guns when they rebelled against the then-government.

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      10 hours ago

      Seems to me that it does in fact mean that that excuse for gun proliferation is pretty useless.

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        Well that’s one hell of a non-sequitur. To make a sweeping generalization, it’s not the guns’ fault that Americans are cowards.

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          A majority of US gun owners like what the government is doing, how does that make them cowards?

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              So they are supposed to kill the majority of Americans who have guns that like what the government is doing?

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                The majority of Americans do not like what the government is doing, as seen from its approval rating, but also armed revolution usually doesn’t happen by killing away everyone who disagrees with you.

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                  The majority of Americans with guns do like what the government is doing though. Gun ownership is well over double for Republicans and they currently strongly support ICE and many other abusive domestic policies.

                  Please point out an armed revolution that wasn’t just wealthy people using humans as pawns in their struggle for control. I can name only one and that was Haiti.

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                    The majority of Americans with guns do like what the government is doing though. Gun ownership is well over double for Republicans and they currently strongly support ICE and many other abusive domestic policies.

                    Uh… therefore?

                    Please point out an armed revolution that wasn’t just wealthy people using humans as pawns in their struggle for control.

                    I’m not sure how that’s relevant here. Most revolutions tend to be about wealthy people using humans as pawns in their struggle for control, but also: Yemen, Syria, Iran, Cuba, Russia, China, Mexico, Ireland*2, decolonization in general. There’s also two Frances (1830, 1848) but those are more iffy.