I think progressives never thought about this because we banked on immigration and demographic change allowing us to win culturally and electorally but the issue is immigrants tend to be overwhelmingly male, that is how Trump won actually he won over a lot of Hispanic,Black,Asian and indigenous men who feel humiliated by a new culture, economy and world.

So what can we do rhetorically and policy wise to win more young men over ?

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    at least some of the concerns are about the young men being declared the “villains” and the other side declaring them to be the victims of injustice and they will gravitate toward the more workable messag

    That’s because people are framing this as a false dichotomy. All the masculinity warriors all try to frame the world as men are warriors under attack, and if you don’t think so you’re a man hating feminist.

    In reality the majority of young dudes are just spending too much time being manipulated online and are blaming hardships created by our form of economics on wokeness.

    Sure a lot of guys are terrible, but the generalizations can make it feel like you can’t win.

    Only if you are weak of mind. I’m a dude, when someone says all men are bad…which never really happens. I don’t really take them literally, and even if I someday do run into someone who means it literally. Who cares, people are allowed to have opinions.

    generalizations can make it feel like you can’t win.

    Says the person who based their rebuttal by believing in a fabricated false dichotomy.

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      Frankly the online stuff doesn’t get to me, but I could see how the generalizations could leave a person succeptible to a narrative. Online interactions tend to have some people taking the easy way and espousing simplified generalizations and on the receiving end are a lot of people that may take the online stuff too serious.

      The false dichotomy works because those are the two loudest viewpoints online, that men are villains without a clear path to being accepted or to embrace horribly harmful toxic masculinity to get some screwed up sense of belonging and success. Young men online are at risk of being ill equipped to navigate the nuance That tends to be quieter over the noise of the two more passionate perspectives.