Unless your country has specific laws to the contrary or is too poor/civilized to have this sort of “lazy parent” food, presume that any of the factory-made shelf-stable food in your grocery aisle is as bad as the equivalent sold in the USA.
(And find out of your country’s food laws are actually better than the USA, or just “feel” better because the same exact product can just list fewer ingredients )
American unable to imagine a part of the world where things are better, typical
They’re legally mandated to have a table for every type of nutrient ( fats, trans fats, carbohydrates - split into subcategories of carbohydrate and carbohydrate sugars, salts, etc) in every packet of things sold as a Edible Product in which it has 2 rows - in a serving, v daily recommendation. In all of EU, and also in the UK. Asia is if anything even more stringent about it then we are and culturally prefer things as unprocessed as possible.
We don’t ban unhealthy foods as long as they’re not literally toxic, but this makes it so everyone makes informed decisions, and over time it has effected sales for unhealthy food, they have worse sales than healthier options
They’re legally mandated to have a table for every type of nutrient ( fats, trans fats, carbohydrates - split into subcategories of carbohydrate and carbohydrate sugars, salts, etc) in every packet of things sold as a Edible Product in which it has 2 rows - in a serving, v daily recommendation.
Ww have all of that in America as well. I had a great deal of confusion on this subject until the specific definition of one of the words involved was given to me. The problem in discussion here isn’t labelling, or even ingredients, the problem is what’s DONE to the ingredients before they get in the food. While some degree of processing happens to most food (Chickens are deboned, corn is nixtamalized, tomatoes are stewed) the issue here is the extreme level of processing rhe ingredients go through. Corn and Cardboard are both high in carbohydrates and fiber, after all, cardboard is mostly plant matter rendered down and cooked/shaped, but one is food and the other has been processed so thoroughly that it’s not.
Many companies are rendering their ingredients so thoroughly before reassembling them that they’re resembling “food” less and less and not doing great things for us nutritionally even though they still measure at certain levels on the packaging. Maybe Jaffa Cakes retain more of the base nutrtion level of the flour in them than twinkies do, but it’s the same base processes occurring to both of their ingredients, just at different levels.
I bet you’d also argue that there is “free speech” in the UK, where a billionaire can still literally sue someone into poverty for accurately describing them. Or the same in Germany, where an advocate against the Palestinian genocide was arrested for “denying Israel”
I tend to speculate negatively when people hurl unfounded insults without disclosing the reason for their perspective.
I encouraged people to not assume that their local regulation’s are “better than the USA” because the same greed that causes so much waste in the USA is also present in literally every human country. And you decided that this meant my country doesn’t have consumer protection of any kind.
If it makes you feel better, tell me what country you are from and I’ll take the time to look for an appropriate example of your country fucking up in a way that wouldn’t happen in the USA.
You’re right, it’s hard to find distinct history for a middle European country that was a footnote for most of your small and young country’s history.
But the internet provides.
Even if we exclude both your country’s precursor states and the various wrongs attributsble to the European Union you were substantially responsible for, Belgium:
has a literal king
didnt ban slavery until decades after the USA
lagged similarly in gay rights (albeit you’re easily on par with the bluest stars in the USA)
let your king annex part of a foreign continent as a subservient colony (and kept that colony until the 1960s!)
And, while I’m neither a lawyer nor sufficiently fluent in French or German to read your laws directly, it sure as fuck looks like you’ve got the same sort of repressive defamation laws that let JK Rowling bully Amnesry UK into apolgizjng for accuratky describing her.
Based on your country’s recent “hard-right” swing, you might acthally see your own neo-autocrat soon, who would absolutely weaponize those laws if they haven’t already started.
If truth and honesty are not both separately prefect defenses to accusations of defamation, you don’t have free speech in the ways that actually matter.
Is that supposed to be a rebuttal, or did your “6 years of history” not include how to structure an argument?
I told you it’d be simple to find something your country did worse than the USA, and I found five plausible examples, including one of the glaring eurozone issues I’d suggested before. I’m actually surprised that “slavery” and “LGBTQ rights” are plausibly on there.
I would hope that a learned historian such as yourself would know better than to assume that their country is uniqjely benevolent, but people who know that usually don’t start mounting off about foreign countries and then start sputtering when someone points out their own country’s failings.
Was your educational study an academic focus or just the primary education propaganda that every industrialized country in the world feeds their citizens?
That is not to say that the shelf stable food here in Europe is as good for you as a home cooked meal, but America allows ingredients which are literally illegal over here because they’re known to cause cancer or other health related issues.
It took the US until two years ago to finally ban titanium oxide as a food additive. You still use horrible foaming agents in your bread, and ingredients derived from processed petroleum byproducts are allowed in your food.
Unless your country has specific laws to the contrary or is too poor/civilized to have this sort of “lazy parent” food, presume that any of the factory-made shelf-stable food in your grocery aisle is as bad as the equivalent sold in the USA.
(And find out of your country’s food laws are actually better than the USA, or just “feel” better because the same exact product can just list fewer ingredients )
The former. In about 75% of the world.
American unable to imagine a part of the world where things are better, typical
They’re legally mandated to have a table for every type of nutrient ( fats, trans fats, carbohydrates - split into subcategories of carbohydrate and carbohydrate sugars, salts, etc) in every packet of things sold as a Edible Product in which it has 2 rows - in a serving, v daily recommendation. In all of EU, and also in the UK. Asia is if anything even more stringent about it then we are and culturally prefer things as unprocessed as possible.
We don’t ban unhealthy foods as long as they’re not literally toxic, but this makes it so everyone makes informed decisions, and over time it has effected sales for unhealthy food, they have worse sales than healthier options
Ww have all of that in America as well. I had a great deal of confusion on this subject until the specific definition of one of the words involved was given to me. The problem in discussion here isn’t labelling, or even ingredients, the problem is what’s DONE to the ingredients before they get in the food. While some degree of processing happens to most food (Chickens are deboned, corn is nixtamalized, tomatoes are stewed) the issue here is the extreme level of processing rhe ingredients go through. Corn and Cardboard are both high in carbohydrates and fiber, after all, cardboard is mostly plant matter rendered down and cooked/shaped, but one is food and the other has been processed so thoroughly that it’s not.
Many companies are rendering their ingredients so thoroughly before reassembling them that they’re resembling “food” less and less and not doing great things for us nutritionally even though they still measure at certain levels on the packaging. Maybe Jaffa Cakes retain more of the base nutrtion level of the flour in them than twinkies do, but it’s the same base processes occurring to both of their ingredients, just at different levels.
Consumer protection laws are really alien to folks from the states it seems.
You really don’t know what you’re talking about.
I bet you’d also argue that there is “free speech” in the UK, where a billionaire can still literally sue someone into poverty for accurately describing them. Or the same in Germany, where an advocate against the Palestinian genocide was arrested for “denying Israel”
I’m not from either of those countries, are you a person that likes to put words in other people’s mouths? 'Cause it sure as fuck sounds like you do.
I tend to speculate negatively when people hurl unfounded insults without disclosing the reason for their perspective.
I encouraged people to not assume that their local regulation’s are “better than the USA” because the same greed that causes so much waste in the USA is also present in literally every human country. And you decided that this meant my country doesn’t have consumer protection of any kind.
If it makes you feel better, tell me what country you are from and I’ll take the time to look for an appropriate example of your country fucking up in a way that wouldn’t happen in the USA.
Belgium, good luck. I don’t need to know what country you’re from. Your ignorance is telling (but it’s also bliss, so lucky you).
You’re right, it’s hard to find distinct history for a middle European country that was a footnote for most of your small and young country’s history.
But the internet provides.
Even if we exclude both your country’s precursor states and the various wrongs attributsble to the European Union you were substantially responsible for, Belgium:
And, while I’m neither a lawyer nor sufficiently fluent in French or German to read your laws directly, it sure as fuck looks like you’ve got the same sort of repressive defamation laws that let JK Rowling bully Amnesry UK into apolgizjng for accuratky describing her.
http://legaldb.freemedia.at/legal-database/belgium/
Based on your country’s recent “hard-right” swing, you might acthally see your own neo-autocrat soon, who would absolutely weaponize those laws if they haven’t already started.
If truth and honesty are not both separately prefect defenses to accusations of defamation, you don’t have free speech in the ways that actually matter.
So you did a quick shit-GTP search and now you know more about my country’s history than I learnt in 6 years of history, about my country?
Wow. True American.
Is that supposed to be a rebuttal, or did your “6 years of history” not include how to structure an argument?
I told you it’d be simple to find something your country did worse than the USA, and I found five plausible examples, including one of the glaring eurozone issues I’d suggested before. I’m actually surprised that “slavery” and “LGBTQ rights” are plausibly on there.
I would hope that a learned historian such as yourself would know better than to assume that their country is uniqjely benevolent, but people who know that usually don’t start mounting off about foreign countries and then start sputtering when someone points out their own country’s failings.
Was your educational study an academic focus or just the primary education propaganda that every industrialized country in the world feeds their citizens?
Holy shit, the propaganda has really done a number on your perspective and I’m tired to pretend it didnt.
It’s you, not the rest of the world, that is different.
Lmao. Ameribrain at work.
It isn’t.
That is not to say that the shelf stable food here in Europe is as good for you as a home cooked meal, but America allows ingredients which are literally illegal over here because they’re known to cause cancer or other health related issues.
It took the US until two years ago to finally ban titanium oxide as a food additive. You still use horrible foaming agents in your bread, and ingredients derived from processed petroleum byproducts are allowed in your food.
Same here in New Zealand. We have very tight restrictions on food additives, particularly with baby food.
Your junk and nutritionally empty food is not a better option to feed to children just because it doesn’t have a certain yellow die.
If that certain yellow die is linked to health issues in children, yes I’d rather not have that in food.
You can keep that in America.
It objectively is, as the former has no nutritional value, and the latter is actively trying to kill you.
way to miss the point