• fdnomad@programming.dev
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    2 days ago

    I’ll be honest, all of the Arch memes I’ve been seeing lately feel like reposts from 5-10 years ago

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    2 days ago

    Where did this stereotype actually come from? I’m genuinely curious. Because Windows users wouldn’t know Arch from Ubuntu and to them, all Linux users are “I use Linux btw” types. And I don’t think I’ve seen Arch users just randomly telling people they use Arch in Linux spaces. But it must’ve come from somewhere.

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      3 hours ago

      I heard someone explain that it wasn’t really that popular some time ago, so they would just say “I use arch btw” to get people to know the distro and apparently it worked

      Or it’s just bullshit and i’il never know

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      IDK if it’s a thing elsewhere but it’s been a running joke on Reddit and Lemmy for years mostly because Arch was the more popular, bare bones distro, i.e. you had to set it up yourself without a guided installer like Mint or Ubuntu, so was used as a signal to be like “I know what I’m talking about”.

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        Ah that definitely makes sense. I think by the time I was experimenting with distros, things had probably moved on a bit. I can say from experience that using Arch just requires the ability to read, really. But it was probably more hardcore in its earlier days when the wiki wasn’t as well formed yet.

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          Yeah, much of the documentation on the arch wiki was written by enthusiasts who did the legwork and drew maps along the way so we now know where to go.

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      Arch was the “elite” distro. Most people who weren’t already very comfortable with the terminal were even able to use arch properly. Stuff like archinstall didn’t exist back then and those that did were way inferior than what we have today. So using arch was like a “badge of honor” of sorts for many people who thought using it made them superior to disgusting ubuntu or mint users with their GUI installer.

      It’s just classic gatekeeping that you’ll see in basically everything that comes with a passionate community.

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      I know this one: It came from the Arch users. No, really, they couldn’t just help to not tell anyone. It’s not just a stereotype, it was really that common.

      Now why they couldn’t help, is guessing, but I guess it is the first distribution, that people take pride in to install, after they tried Ubuntu.

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          Using NixOS was when I finally felt like I started to understand Linux. I don’t think I could go back lol

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            I already knew Linux. What it made me learn is systemd. And I’ll say it without shame, I like systemd. I know it doesn’t follow the Unix philosophy but it’s just semantics.

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              I know it doesn’t follow the Unix philosophy

              For me, it falls into the pragmatic gap between idealism and usability. Is it perfect? Most certainly not. Does it serve a good portion of use cases? Apparently. Does it work as a more-or-less de facto standard to provide a common platform for other things to build on? Evidently.

              If we could codify the resulting standards and assumptions and create a more modular ecosystem to plug that same gap, that would still be a lot of work, and at some point, most people just wanna build the damn house instead of overengineering the foundation.

              Perfect is the enemy of good, and systemd has to be good enough.

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          Both NixOS and Gentoo are also addictive as hell, you poke just a couple of things — the next thing you know it’s 3 AM two weeks later and you are recompiling your whole system trying to make it work with Wild linker or something along those lines, laughing maniacally.

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    Just made it through a technical interview without managing to say that I use Arch, btw. It is harder than you think.