• ryanee@fedia.io
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    I keep hearing this so often “they will take any opportunity to declare martial law” this so often its starting to sound like autogenocide

    • lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works
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      yeah, that’s a weak reason against violent protests. stronger ones are:

      • the violence is often misdirected at people not able to bring change, eg. small businesses or cars.
      • the violence exhausts protesters. many of them being crippled or killed by police, until the protests are suppressed by too few motivated protesters being left.

      btw cops love violent protests. they get to kill maim and torture more people than usual. it’s what many of them signed up for and look forward to with excitement. sometimes they have off duty cops in plain clothes infiltrating protesters to start the carnage. all it takes is throwing one stone near a collegue with shield and helmet to give him an excuse to go on a rampage against innocent protesters, while the infiltrator sneaks off

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        Cops like it when it’s them being violent. They don’t do much when the opposition is armed and not concentrated in one small easily controlled area.

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        that’s a weak reason against violent protests. stronger ones are:

        Non-violent ones are more effective, as per some study I saw a month or so back.

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          There is an agenda in convincing people that non violence works. Take a real look at how unions and civil rights actually happened. The non violent get credit after the fact to control the narrative.

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      I really love this meme. The self-defeating attitude that’s been perpetuated by team Dem of "We’ve tried nothing that could potentially be useful and are all out of ideas!” has been swallowed wholesale, by us. Will getting ourselves out of this trap be painful, disfiguring for some, deadly for others? Sure. The other option is self-suffocating, slowly. Drowning by self-waterboarding.