• Maeve@kbin.earth
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    2 days ago

    Last I heard, he was calling himself soc Dem or Dem soc, both of which uphold the capitalist class. He’s proposing good work to make a few inroads but not proposing his potential constituency own the means of production which is the definition of socialism.

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      2 days ago

      For the record, he’s a democratic socialist, not a social democrat. These are distinct, though related movements. The difference between them, which you seem confused about, is that socialists do not uphold the capitalist class, despite your claims. Social democrats want to retain capitalism, while democratic socialists do not.

      However, democratic socialists do have differences of opinion with more radical socialists on the best way to achieve the socialized means of production they aim for. They favor reform over revolution.

      You are welcome to disagree with this view but it’s not a good reason to view their socialism as false or insincere.

      No need to reply, since we already established that you’re not interested in good faith discourse. But I couldn’t leave this misinformation unchallenged.