A linear scale and even the 2d “compass” is only useful for the most basic introduction to political parties but sometimes ya gotta meet people where they are at 🤷‍♀️

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    what government history book is teaching how right-wing style movements or oligarchical power are used derail socialist efforts? which history books are you suggesting be salient?

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      I think they are referring to the fact that the CIA financed the 1954 animated adaptation of Animal Farm after buying the film rights.

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      Do I need a list? Come on, I’m sure you learned in school how eeeeevil Stalin is and how he was just as bad as Hitler. Or worse than Hitler! Then you just kept on believing the Animal Farm narrative, because you trusted the lies your teacher told you.

      So speaking of, I recommend Lies My Teacher Told Me as a primer, so you can understand how woefully miseducated a bourgeois education will leave you. It has plenty of examples of the lies that the ideological state apparatus pumps into its schools.

      And if you want to actually learn some real history about Stalin, there’s now an English translation of Stalin: History and Critique of a Black Legend. That’s definitely a heavier book than Lies, though, I’m still working through it.

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        they are teaching that stalin is evil because he is rightwing?

        is anyone here actually reading the words that i’m typing before responding?

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          they are teaching that stalin is evil because he is rightwing?

          Yes. That is essentially the lesson they derive from Animal Farm: that any communist/socialist revolution will ultimately devolve into “the same thing” or “just as bad” as fascist dictatorship. If you you don’t recognize the incessant equating of Stalin with Hitler in both popular media and school curricula, then I don’t know what to tell you. And when I say they derive that lesson from Animal Farm, that is not to let Orwell off the hook at all, because that is the most obvious and valid way to interpret it, as Orwell intended.

          What’s more, the lesson seems to be one you’ve absorbed and accepted, considering you’re touting Animal Farm as if it has pedagogical merit instead of treating it as the silly, puerile rightist dreck that it is and even worse, insisting that fucking horseshoe theory is a useful heuristic. Oh and of course unironically using the epithet “tankie” to refer to other leftists in the same comment where you said you “just wish local efforts could connect to larger efforts, since we need multiple groups cooperating in solidarity, not isolated individualism” (and to be clear, that latter quote is good and correct but demonstrates unrecognized hypocrisy in someone who also talks about those ebil “tankies”).

          Any one of those things is enough to induce a huge facepalm in any leftist who has actually engaged with real leftist thought and theory. Yes, we are actually reading the words that you’re typing and we can’t help but wince.