Direct link to the LLM Policy Discussion: https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/work_items/187
Example of a KDE dev not wanting environmental concerns to play any role, despite KDE having an environmental project:
Devs rejecting any notion of transparency by disclosing AI usage in code submissions (in direct opposition to advice from the FSFE):
And all of this is coming right after the debacle with an AI slop project being allowed to give a presentation at Akademy, and the person asking how this was allowed being blocked by KDE:
https://lemmy.nz/post/42029517
as well as the discussion thread bringing up legitimate concerns about AI usage being closed:
https://discuss.kde.org/t/sorry-to-bring-up-a-contentious-topic-kde-ai-llm-policy/46333/164
As someone who genuinely loves KDE, and has even donated to the project multiple times, I sadly have to accept that the majority of KDE have hopped onto the Pro-AI train, and they will not be dissuaded otherwise.
Do we have a list of desktops that ban AI?
https://codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware#desktop-environments
https://codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware#window-managers
tl;dr:
Niri should join that list since this recent commit: https://github.com/niri-wm/niri/commit/7256ccf6274a1f953c6987ade34ea1c0e4944c27
Good to see that. I was sceptical because literally ~2 days ago I saw a LLM gen’d PR not be outright rejected and the lead dev requested deletion unnecessary comments which meant they were open to the merge. Seeing how the change came yesterday makes far more sense.
E: Seems like 1 hour (E2: ago*) they even commented on the PR about the new policy: https://github.com/niri-wm/niri/pull/3246#issuecomment-5755531477
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Edit: Good find @heliotrope@slrpnk.net, that list increases our options significantly.
This list contains
the onlysome known DE’s that openly reject AI. Basically just a couple window managers.Pretty much every major full blown DE accepts or uses AI. Gnome and Cinnamon have no official stances
Yeah, but GNOME developers mostly dislike AI, so the project could be considered to be at a lower risk of contamination.
It definitely seems like one of the better options for the full fledged DE’s.
On a related note, while looking through that new list, it lists Sway as a non-AI alternative, but as of a couple weeks ago, this doesn’t looks promising: https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/9272
Lmao i guess we’re racist now for having ethical concerns.
Really unfortunate, sway was my favourite wm, but even without ai slop, I’m not just gonna keep using it after they call me racist.
That doesn’t look great, but the code still seems clean: https://slopscan.ava.pet/repo/https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fswaywm%2Fsway/master
Perhaps for now. Personally I’d be hesitant to invest in learning Sway’s keyboard shortcuts and workflow if they’re going to be pro-AI long term.
BSD.
Linux has reasonable use of AI permitted.