Supposedly, the God Emperor was always around and just hands off of human affairs until they Apocalypsed earth, then he took charge to save the species.
It’s possible that he probably came about before and then caused the Apocalypse, like some sort of psyker mutant test tube baby Oligarch.
History written by the victors and all that.
Die, heretic.
BLAM
Yes, Inquisitor. This one right here is sprouting heresy. Something about the Imperium of Man will be the downfall of mankind.
Why Orkz is best. True meritocracy
Blue orcs are lucky an’ don’t require meritocracy ta become a warboss.
RED WUNZ GO FASTA
I imagine that, if you’re a 10-year-old boy, fascism can look pretty awesome. Lots of action, badass uniforms and weapons, skulls and stuff, and no icky girls bringing their cooties into your top-sekrit treehouse.
No Girls AAAAALLOWEEEED
also remember, be positive
Also, Hatemonger is gay.
PRAISE BE TO SPACE KING!
It is a pretty cool setting.
Ork brain
There’s a cartoon about it now that was showing up on reddit that does exactly this
Aren’t you pro Democratic Party, lol?
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its a .ml user.
you can safely ignore. xD
It’s not even that you disagree with my opinion, just that you disagree with the letters in the URL in my username, lmfao.
Sure got me!
Yeah, how dare someone be judged by the company they willingly choose to keep
This person went off their meds and is just running around spamming little gotchas to unusual places.
Do you feel got?
Is this an unusual place?
This person saw the word fascist and immediately thought of the Democrat Party.
Thanks, I thought it was pretty simple, lol.
And the rest of us think you’re pretty simple lol
It’s pretty embarrassing that you read once that liberalism creates the conditions needed for fascism to rise and assumed that means we won’t know you’re just a shitposting conservative if you call the Dems fascists.
You know, the democratic party:
The worst exemple you could choose is wharamer 40k. Like the fucking universe where humanity has to fight to survive. And fight more horrible things than even exist in ours.
Edit for all the moron than think politics are an integral part of wharamer juste replace wharamer with full metal jacket and how it was meant to show war ks horrible and the audience got the message thebmilitarybis cool.
The point of wharamer is to sell figurine that look cool and have a cool background. U dumb and tiresome.
Edit for all the moron than think politics are an integral part of wharamer juste replace wharamer with full metal jacket and how it was meant to show war ks horrible and the audience got the message thebmilitarybis cool.
I always love the irony of someone being called stupid in a borderline illiterate response.
Especially when you’re completely uninformed about the history of “wharamer”
Bruh, 40K literally started as a satire of fascism during the punk movement. From medium:
The farther we go forward in time, the more Umberto Eco’s seminal essay on the definition of fascism (“Ur-Fascism”, 1995) applies. Read these (very abridged) qualifiers and think about what you know about 40k, space marines, and the Imperium of Man.
- Cult of Tradition/Traditionalism
- Rejection of Modernism
- Cult of Action for Action’s Sake
- Disagreement is treason.
- Racist by definition/diversity is bad.
- Derives power from individual or social frustration.
- Nationalism/Tribalism/”Appeals to people who feel deprived of a clear social identity”
- Followers feel humiliated.
- Life is lived for struggle/life is permanent…
Think about every line you know from 40k, and everything that ever happens in this setting. It’s incredibly fascist coded and the fault of the fascists for being in their situation.
TBF the videogames have been a little lighter on the irony than the original works. And the user does make a point that there are surprisingly worse fates than service of the empire in 40K, namely the (other) chaos gods.
Nah the entire point of the 40k is a satire of fascism and all the horrors it brings. Humanity is fighting to survive because everyone else in the universe quite rightly hates them for their 10,000 year campaign of conquest and genocide. Even the more horrible things than humanity like chaos are heavily bolstered and fed by the actions of the imperium. Every problem humanity faces in the 40k universe(except the orks I guess) is of their own doing.
I’m not with buddy. More here to talk about the lore of W.H.
Didn’t humanity try to be peaceful at first, but then the other species used our kindness as a way to take advantage of us?
Again, I’m not getting into the political side of it, just the lore.
(Why am I being downvoted, damn, I get what warhammer is about. I was just wanting to ask lore :( )
Lore wise humanity was more chill in the dark age of technology and earlier there was a lot a lot of back and forth though a lot that lore is deliberately very vague and there certainly might be parts of it I don’t know as it’s been a couple of years since my last 40k lore hyperfixation. For the 10,000 years or so the setting primarily covers humanity is full on murder mode from the moment the emperor elects to reveal himself to humanity, conquer terra and engage in the campaign of galactic conquest.
Less “better” more not waging a literal genocide crusade from the comments made by surviving AIs from the Cybernetic Revolt. Only in that context it was only because AIs don’t have genes.
It’s also hard to tell because it was before the Eldar got got by Slaanesh so there’s a big element of humans simply not having the power to do it even with their higher tech level.
Ooh ok. So just to be clear. Slaneesh wasn’t even born yet when the Imperium was trying to conquer the stars? I know they’re the newest of Chaos gods. Just didn’t know if they were before Big E’s galaxy conquest plan or after.
Slaanesh was born after the Emperor conquered and unified Terra in M31. This cleared up the warp storms that had isolated most human worlds from each other during the Age of Strife and allowed the newly formed Imperium to begin to conquer the galaxy.
Ah I gotcha. I don’t get a lot of time to read nowadays, but what I have gotten from YouTube channels lately has been cool to learn about.
Humans are definitely not the good guys. But I don’t think anyone really is in that world. Tau maybe and Orks are just Orks. Can’t fault a bird for flying and fish for swimming, won’t hate a Ork for Waaaggghing.
The dark age is def a section I wanna know more about. It’s when A.I turned against right?
Tau very much aren’t good guys with their rigid caste system and the “join us ‘peacefully’ and definetly of your own volition or by force” expansionism. Orks are an unrelenting pack of bastard mushrooms to everyone all the time.
Yeah the war against the men of iron and the eventual outlawing of AI oingst humanity as a result is part of the DAOT and it’s downfall.
Yea, when you put it that way. Was thinking more of the they’re the youngest. But then I think about the krok(?) Who they send in to eat the enemy. As well as if I remember they use brainwashing, don’t they.
Honestly, it sounds like at the end of the day, if you are born human in that world, just pray you can live to see tomorrow.
Edit: you could also say the Orks are a bad shroom trip. ba dum tsh
yeah except the ork, the insect that just wanna propage indefinetly like a cancer and the warp ppl that are just under control of an entity that want the end of mankind. who the fuck in that universe is like your war was really mean we gonna make a never ending war in revenge ?
how the fuck u saw 40k and think fsatire of facism ???
how the fuck u saw 40k and think fsatire of facism ???
Because thats how it started? The Imperium is not a good place to live. It is the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable, per every 40k book ever. It is a setting with zero “good” factions.
Yeah so can u imagine any other type of regime for this hellscape universe ? Do u think the settings was build to criticize political regime ??? How the fuck can you write it s a satire of facism ??? It s not and isn’t even the point of the IP and all the derivative that came from it Wtf
Yes that is exactly what it was done to do. Political satire was a central component to GWs early development of it’s properties(shouts out to the margaret thatcher banner) and it has remained part of it in varying degrees over the decades. You’re not supposed to like the imperium or any faction within 40k, it’s not a setting to be celebrated. It’s meant to be showing things at their absolute worst including the hyper racist empire that represents humanity.
Omfg. The hyper racist empire Lmao Yeah yeah everything is political and once again your identifying yourself with the bugs
Bro the imperium has a religious inquisition that goes around executing people for religious heresy and thought crime. Space marines are brainwashed, drugged up child soldiers and the mechanicus are so religiously conservative they’re essentialy the amish with laser rifles.
How could you possibly talk about fascism, a political system, without being political
My god man. We’re not making this shit up, this is literally the story behind 40k, per the people who wrote it.
T’au and Leagues of Votann are both doing well and not horrible places to live. The Craftworlds are nice enough.
James Workshop has been pretty fucking direct and consistent that the IoM is horrible and it’s largely humanity in general and Big E specifically to blame.
40k is a story of humanity colonizing the stars, committing genocide, and then acting like a victim because aliens fought back and their oppressive genetic overlords turned on each other.
The obvious satire clearly went over your head.
no no look here. bitch. point is. WAR. IS. FREAKIN! COOOL!!!.
and i also like gunz
“aliens fought back” bro do u hear yourself ? u think we gonna sit with them and have peace talk ? the point of the setting is a never ending war and humanity is at war with force that dont negotiate
This has got to be the dumbest thread.
The problem with Reddit exoduses creating more Lemmings is you get the people who didn’t already quit Reddit.
Somebody didn’t read any of the Horus Heresy.
I guess it really shouldn’t be a surprise that a trumper can’t recognize obvious fascism
Not american but between that and the masterclass of the horrible creature that are describe as killing anything they see aren’t nice cause we are the badies I will take it
