• Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.socialOP
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    22 hours ago

    They can easily rejoin…

    Brother what? You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about, or you’re trolling.

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      22 hours ago

      If they are existing members, they have already proven to fulfill the requirements. Hence it is theoretically easy for them to rejoin 🤷

      Having a system where existing states can regress on vital criteria that were necessary to join with no real risk of expulsion just creates a system of impunity that enables veto abuse.

      But clearly the problem isn’t the veto power, but that the system allows for such regression to happen in the first place.

      Removing the veto power just enables for that impunity to fester and destroy the EU from within.

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        22 hours ago

        “Theoretically easy” lol.

        Nothing in the EU is easy, especially with the Veto power.


        They will Veto anything that wants to remove them. So the EU will literally have to disband to kick them out.

        And if they wanted to rejoin, and the Veto was still in place, other countries would probably Veto them joining again.

        I’m genuinely unsure if you have no idea what you’re talking about, or if you’re trolling or misguided, the Veto power is a big issue in the EU and is to a degree destroying it, because the EU can’t act unless literally everyone agrees.

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          22 hours ago

          The corresponding EU treaty article explicitly says that the country affected can’t veto it. Anything else would be obviously stupid.

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            22 hours ago

            Brother, stop talking Bullshit

            https://www.euronews.com/2022/04/08/member-states-can-leave-the-eu-but-can-the-bloc-kick-one-of-them-out

            Member states can leave the EU, but can the bloc kick one of them out?

            The short answer is: no. The long answer is: it would take years of haggling and then most probably fail.

            The reason is quite simple: The EU simply never planned for that possibility.
            "Legally speaking, we don’t have the apparatus to expel a member state

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              22 hours ago

              You are literally quoting an article written by the pro-Orban and Orban allied oligarch owned Euronews that of course tries to sell the false narrative that Hungary can’t be kicked out.

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                22 hours ago

                genetic fallacy : judging a claim true or false based on where it came from rather than on its merits.

                The video I linked you earlier is Anti-Orban, and says the same.

                Wiki also confirms this

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_7_of_the_Treaty_on_European_Union Article 7 of the Treaty on European Union is a procedure in the treaties of the European Union (EU) to suspend certain rights from a member state. While rights can be suspended, there is no mechanism to expel a state from the union.

                And no, suspension-of-rights is not expulsion.