Freedom of association explicitly allows Hungary to be kicked out.
Freedom of association encompasses both an individual’s right to join or leave groups voluntarily, the right of the group to take collective action to pursue the interests of its members, and the right of an association to accept or decline membership based on certain criteria. It can be described as the right of a person coming together with other individuals to collectively express, promote, pursue and/or defend common interests.[1]
Freedom of association is both an individual right and a collective right, guaranteed by all modern and democratic legal systems, including the United States Bill of Rights, article 11 of the European Convention on Human Rights, section 2 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and international law, including articles 20 and 23 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and article 22 of International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. The Declaration on Fundamental Principles and Rights at Work by the International Labour Organization also ensures these rights.
the right of the group to take collective action to pursue the interests of its members, and the right of an association to accept or decline membership based on certain criteria.
Freedom of association is both an individual right and a collective right
But clearly your understanding of political theory is lacking, so arguing beyond this is pointless.
Well, that’s certainly a novel interpretation of the ECHR. It’s especially novel since states aren’t people, and the ECHR harshly restricts any limits on freedom of association. The ECHR also specifically binds the signatory countries, and not the EU or its organs.
It’s also quite funny to see this rake, since literally the entire EU is convinced there is no mechanism to remove a country, but you, some rando on Lemmy, thinks they have found the loophole.
The ECHR isn’t what grants EU nations FfA. But the fact the ECHR protects it shows that it’s a fundamental European value.
The EU is not convinced of anything, it’s politically convenient to not threaten the stability of what is still regarded as the European experiment.
This is no loophole, but a fundamental value of liberalism and democracy. Perhaps you should read more than just the first few sentences of a Wikipedia article before arguing politics in future.
Now who’s using the black and white fallacy.
Freedom of association explicitly allows Hungary to be kicked out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_association
That wiki page is about Human’s Freedom-of-association, it doesn’t apply to the EU.
You can’t apply human rights to say, Hungary.
One is a person, the other is a country…
But clearly your understanding of political theory is lacking, so arguing beyond this is pointless.
It does not apply in this category. If it was that easy it would have been at the very least a discussion point in the media, it is not.
Well, that’s certainly a novel interpretation of the ECHR. It’s especially novel since states aren’t people, and the ECHR harshly restricts any limits on freedom of association. The ECHR also specifically binds the signatory countries, and not the EU or its organs.
It’s also quite funny to see this rake, since literally the entire EU is convinced there is no mechanism to remove a country, but you, some rando on Lemmy, thinks they have found the loophole.
The ECHR isn’t what grants EU nations FfA. But the fact the ECHR protects it shows that it’s a fundamental European value.
The EU is not convinced of anything, it’s politically convenient to not threaten the stability of what is still regarded as the European experiment.
This is no loophole, but a fundamental value of liberalism and democracy. Perhaps you should read more than just the first few sentences of a Wikipedia article before arguing politics in future.
You see Hungarians are afraid of being kicked out of the EU, and because of that they can’t be kicked out
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_from_fear