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    I know he was a very violent revolutionary, but do you have sources for him specifically targeting any of those people/groups? I know he oversaw the execution of a lot of people from the Batista government, but hadn’t heard of any specific targeting based on race, sexual orientation, or jobs.

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      3 days ago

      I meant the guy is taking shitposting very seriously, I think they decided to follow through in the comments.

      However shitty the takes and the self proclaimed engagement baiting.

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      He was a shitty guy. Motorcycle diaries he talks about all of it. Look into his writings the about the Hombre Nuevo. The UMAP camps that came from his actions. Meme also doesn’t say he outwardly targeted based on these factors, just that people in these categories were executed/enslaved as a direct result of his actions.

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        The motorcycle diaries were written before any of his revolutionary actions, and pretty sure they didn’t involve murder. The new man was about sacrificing yourself for the revolution and being more interested in being productive for the new communist society, at least from my understanding. So don’t see how any of that was supporting the meme. The labor camps are absolutely fucked up, but I don’t think Che himself specifically wanted any of the people listed to be put in labor camps.

        And it says he murdered those people which implies targeted killing. So misleading at best, and possibly intentionally misleading. He had enough flaws without making up shit.

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          I would never post something in shitpost that isn’t an objective fact that I wholeheartedly believe in. This is a place for honesty, nuance, intellectual conversation and serious takes.

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              I don’t understand what you mean. Low/zero effort bait is mostly about the audience. Bait a primarily far left to Marxist audience, post X communist historical figure/movement/place bad. The comments roll in. Give a few weak responses and barely relevent quotes, people get all rilled up. I’m having a good time. I’ve done this a dozen times at least.

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                Exactly. Ragebaiting is not shitposting. If spreading right-wing propaganda for engagement is what gives you joy in life I really pity you.

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                  Its not spreading propaganda, its encouraging arguments wayyyy too easily. This is an appropriate shitpost based on the definition of shitpost lol. I literally don’t believe in almost anything I say in this community. It’s just silly time. Getting people to take a shitpost seriously is the most funny.

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                    I think youre confused here. Just because propaganda is provoking people does not mean it qualifies as a shitpost. Posting a beheading is also provocative, is that a shitpost to you? Most people dont engage that much with the content they see on here. More often than not they dont even check what community something was posted in. They might be like “oh Che Guevara was a murderer? Didnt know that scroll”. Youre saying you “dont believe in” the stuff you post, but when writing factual information, believing in it has nothing to do with it. Its either true or not. These are not opinions. Its just spreading misinformation.

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            If you were a smart landlord you’d fold the cost of all those things into the rent. Which all landlords do. So landlords take on all of things only to fire a fucking cannonball at renters. Get out of here with this shit ass meme.

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            Yeah I don’t propaganda and intellectual dishonesty is the same thing as shitposting

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        Meme also doesn’t say he outwardly targeted based on these factors

        Bro you literally wrote “murdered”. Thats way more direct involvement than targeting. Get your stupid brainwashed propaganda memes our of here.

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        Okay that interesting. However it classify “shitty person” whoever take part in a social organization that do the same thing : like if you are a US, UK or French pay taxer