Has anybody ever actually seen someone wearing a Che Guevara T-shirt in the last 20 years? This is such a boomer meme.
I’ve got a Weird Al shirt that everyone confuses for one.
The revolution freed the slaves in Cuba, ended its colonialism by the US, provided free medicine and education for every citizen, reformed land so there were no big landlords any longer, created vast amounts of infrastructure in rural areas that did not have any before this, and much, much more. The ones killed by the revolution were the fascists in the Batista regime. Marxism-Leninism is the ideology of the liberation of the working classes around the world.
You are absolutely correct–while this will probably be buried among all the other replies, I want to share the video essay by overzealots that confronts the liberal media’s propaganda/disinformation campaign surrounding the Cuban revolution.
Thanks!
Cuba has more doctors per sq. inch than another country in NA. Everybody in Cuba is highly educated despite it being a place where not the smartest people vacation to. Only reason Cuba is not an economic power house is because of the embargo that’s been going on for 50 years.
“How many left countries do I need to destroy to show you that it does not work?” - Every US intelligence agency, probably
indeed. the biggest reason socialism fails is because capitalists keep kneecaping it, not because its a flawed system.
The narrative that socialism has always failed is also wrong, too. Cuba is doing far better than they would have for its people had it remained a sugar colony. China is quickly advancing to the top of the world stage. Socialism does work, despite siege, even if it would do better without it.
China isn’t socialist
Shit I’d argue Cubans got it better then Americans rn. At least thier cancer gets treated.
Their scientists also developed a very potent cure for Alzheimers disease named NeuralCIM. Dr. Bill Blanchet, a US doctor is helping US patients to get treatment in Cuba. AFAIK the only western country doing a clinical trial with it is Canada.
Their scientists also developed a very potent cure for Alzheimers disease named NeuralCIM.
Not exactly, NeuralCIM does appear to slow Alzheimers progression, only measuring cognitive scores but it is far from a “cure”.
It’s being tested at Phase 2 in Canada, with plans for a large phase 3, this time using brain imaging.
How CIM can make this drug for $2.50 a dose is another question for capitalism, because by the time it gets approved in North America, it will cost thousands.
Ironic that the country under siege by the USA has the one drug the US president needs.
“NeuralCIM”
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The internet has ruined me
Right now the genocidal blockade is preventing vital cancer-treating medicine from entering Cuba, so while Cuba does have numerous advantages over the US even with its imperialism, right now the people are being starved and cut off of vital necessities.
should have put “fails” in quotations TBF.
Fair.
Yep! It’s also resource poor as an island, which makes it that much more impressive!
Ok, but Guevara got kicked out of Cuba because all he wanted was war. He was also a bastard to his own troops.
No, he left (and abdicated all of his own titles and citizenship) to go fight against imperialism in the Congo.
Not actual history, but believe what you want. You don’t always want military revolutionaries running a country after revolution. See Stalin.
“everybody I don’t like is a fascist”
I don’t like fascists, and Fulgencio Batista certainly was.
Is that the only person che murdered? The post sugeested a few other people. Were all the murdered gays also fascists?
Gay people weren’t murdered. The revolutionary government did continue the former reactionary policy towards gay people and imprisoned them, but this was corrected and overturned through the newly implemented democratic system. Today, Cuba is one of the most LGBTQIA+ countries on the planet thanks to their popular Family Code.
That’s not what the OP claims. And they are not talking about today’s Cuba, so you might as well tell me how ancient Greece viewed it, equally irrelevant.
The OP is wrong, lmao. And modern Cuba has only been a state since 1959, Batista’s regime is living memory for some. Be more serious.
I’ve literally never been wrong about anything at any point in my life… I did just finish blackshirts and reds, thanks for the rec. I’m starting Communism: A History by Richard Pipes next. Then the Soviet Century by Lewin.
Have you seen the sublemmy you are on? No, I won’t be more serious.
Kill your heroes, eat their corpses, and shit out a better tomorrow!
Revolutionaries aren’t perfect, so it’s better to stick with the facist billionaire pedophiles that you already know and love.
I think there are more options in the t-shirt market than just 1) picture of communist fuckwad 2) picture of billionaire fuckwad.
Do you know what a ‘strawman’ is?
I think this is more false dichotomy than strawman.
Oh, so you’re saying it’s either a strawman or a false dichotomy? (/j)
The little voodoo doll things made out of dry grass and hair?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
Also nice indicator of missing critical thinking.
No I’m pretty sure he meant the doll thing.
i dont
Never blindly idolise a person. Everyone has god and bad sides. Some more of one or the other. Let them inspire you not think for you. He however wasn’t much of a thinking kinda guy…
You’re not wrong, but someone tell me why I shouldn’t wear TV’s late Fred Rogers on my T-Shirt.
He was a shoe murderer. Every morning he would take off his shoes and fling them from his apartment window with such force that birds would disintegrate from impact and people below would suffer similar fates as his shoes were steel capped
Ok fine. Now what about my Bill Cosby hoodie?
The man was a SAINT and you should revere it
BBQ chicken so good, you don’t remember the next morning.
I always just liked the irony of putting this guy on a tshirt and selling them at retailers.
I made one with mickey mouse ears on him.
Back when Post-Modern stuff like that wasn’t considered Cultural Marxism or part of MAGAs claims about the trans agenda. Post-Modernism was just remixing art and stuff.
I’m sure that’s also considered some sort of appropriation, which is a word used when someone wishes you would jump into a volcano so they don’t have to think about how isolationist a true non-appropiated world would be. The solution is villages of ethnic hegemony where no one travels. We have that, it’s called being a redneck.
Haha he must have been turning in his grave
Made in China or Bangladesh by effectively slave labor.
China cracks down on that when found.
They don’t like competition, huh?
They don’t like sweatshops.
Will they provide the anti-suicide netting?
Hmm, apparently moreso than Smithfield or Amazon or Tyson foods will provide safer working conditions, liveable wages.
Great Standards!
Not today, CIA.
Nice try, FBI!
Hissssss
I know he was a very violent revolutionary, but do you have sources for him specifically targeting any of those people/groups? I know he oversaw the execution of a lot of people from the Batista government, but hadn’t heard of any specific targeting based on race, sexual orientation, or jobs.
I meant the guy is taking shitposting very seriously, I think they decided to follow through in the comments.
However shitty the takes and the self proclaimed engagement baiting.
He was a shitty guy. Motorcycle diaries he talks about all of it. Look into his writings the about the Hombre Nuevo. The UMAP camps that came from his actions. Meme also doesn’t say he outwardly targeted based on these factors, just that people in these categories were executed/enslaved as a direct result of his actions.
The motorcycle diaries were written before any of his revolutionary actions, and pretty sure they didn’t involve murder. The new man was about sacrificing yourself for the revolution and being more interested in being productive for the new communist society, at least from my understanding. So don’t see how any of that was supporting the meme. The labor camps are absolutely fucked up, but I don’t think Che himself specifically wanted any of the people listed to be put in labor camps.
And it says he murdered those people which implies targeted killing. So misleading at best, and possibly intentionally misleading. He had enough flaws without making up shit.
I would never post something in shitpost that isn’t an objective fact that I wholeheartedly believe in. This is a place for honesty, nuance, intellectual conversation and serious takes.
I dont think right-wing propaganda counts as shitposts, even if it is shit.
I don’t understand what you mean. Low/zero effort bait is mostly about the audience. Bait a primarily far left to Marxist audience, post X communist historical figure/movement/place bad. The comments roll in. Give a few weak responses and barely relevent quotes, people get all rilled up. I’m having a good time. I’ve done this a dozen times at least.
You’re fucking pathetic.
Block and move on and enjoy a slightly better world without this cunt’s shit in your eyes
Exactly. Ragebaiting is not shitposting. If spreading right-wing propaganda for engagement is what gives you joy in life I really pity you.
Its not spreading propaganda, its encouraging arguments wayyyy too easily. This is an appropriate shitpost based on the definition of shitpost lol. I literally don’t believe in almost anything I say in this community. It’s just silly time. Getting people to take a shitpost seriously is the most funny.
Don’t be so modest! You clearly have a University education!
Thanks for clarifying that you’re an idiot.
Whooosh
No they’re just an asshole.
Those are not mutually exclusive.
No he’s not
No problem babe. Just out here never being disingenuous.
If you were a smart landlord you’d fold the cost of all those things into the rent. Which all landlords do. So landlords take on all of things only to fire a fucking cannonball at renters. Get out of here with this shit ass meme.
Better?
Death to all landlords. Never support leeches.
Hahahaha XD
So the land Lords do bring some apparent value? Color me shocked. Just like employers? Woah!
Yeah I don’t propaganda and intellectual dishonesty is the same thing as shitposting
Then what’s shitposting? How does it differ from a general meme community?
Meme also doesn’t say he outwardly targeted based on these factors
Bro you literally wrote “murdered”. Thats way more direct involvement than targeting. Get your stupid brainwashed propaganda memes our of here.
What do you mean?
Okay that interesting. However it classify “shitty person” whoever take part in a social organization that do the same thing : like if you are a US, UK or French pay taxer
What if don’t pay tax
innocent I guess
That face when you spread misinformation
You should tell him to go back to reddit
Why haven’t you blocked me yet?
How will they troll if they do.
That is why I’ve never blocked anyone.
You still have the energy to try to educate those evil morons? Impressive.
Great post, Marco Rubio! Keep up the great work!
That guy’s only like 5’7 at best.
*67
It’s the thought that counts!
Always doubt your heroes.
And never deify anyone.
Nonsense! Lead them to paradise, lisan al-gaib!
Who’s ‘the left’ anymore?
Me.
Daggermoon.
I wish I knew
“The blacks, those magnificent examples of the African race who have maintained their racial purity thanks to their lack of an affinity with bathing, have seen their territory invaded by a new kind of slave: the Portuguese.”
“The poor man, apart from being a sexual pervert and a bore, had treated us well and given us ten soles each. Probably an invertido”
“The black is indolent and a dreamer; spending his meager wage on frivolity and drink; the European has a tradition of work and saving…”
Ohh bitch, no …are you on a serious political campaign in a shit posting forum?
No!..
Sad day for you bro.
Did you think everyone was talking about Che Guavara then you came in?
Did you think he was still an icon?
Bitch no…
Why so serious?
Bitch…
Everything I post/comment in shitpost is completely genuine, authentic and honest… 😉 I wouldn’t try to engage in bait in any capacity and I definitely don’t have a track record of doing so.
Stewart Lee is a British comedian who thinks being serious on stage is funny. Long political rants, not enough jokes.
Stewart Lee is hilarious and his routines are stuffed full of jokes, why are you bringing him into this?
I didn’t think you could be British and a comedian.
In international politics the “good guys” are the ones that are hostile towards your enemy regardless of any other shortcomings.
It baffles me how this guy became an icon.
Here’s a short video if anyone wants to learn about him
Symbols are easier than actual people. Nobody is just one thing, and complexity doesn’t travel well. Revolutionaries are either lionized or demonized, and so it becomes easier for the critics to ignore valid points while simultaneously being easier for the supporters to ignore atrocities. Rather than an objective, complete understanding of the man, you get polarized factions that don’t see each other as people.
It baffles me how this guy became an icon.
I’m sure the fact that he was really hot had a lot to do with it. The guy was very nice to look at, and that worked very well in the use of widespread visual propaganda.
Same with Stalin. Did you know young Stalin looked like this?
Yeah…
I’m a straight guy and even I can tell he’s a handsome bloke.
I had a similar thought about Snowden and Assange. Both those guys look like movie stars.
Bro couldnt grow a beard if his life depended on it but i guess you’re correct. Also he fought for communism which is at its base a nice idea. Too bad it has to be forced and always be supervised by central authocratic governments which tend to give no fucks about human rights.
Would it be discrimination to not kill someone only because they have one of those traits?
I’ll see that and raise you someone who doesn’t have a ton of videos titled “you won’t BELIEVE how awful this communist group was!”: https://youtu.be/sB5-yxDrDQk
Genocide denial never was and never will be cool.
Latin American hangs out with Westerner is the usual path.
Remember when the CIA funded schools to teach Right Wing Death Squads and they put in a bunch of rightwing dictators in because they’re scared of communism having a turn?
History is hilarious. The School of the Americas. Life, Liberty, and teaching massacres 101:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Hemisphere_Institute_for_Security_Cooperation#Criticism
“The U.S. Army School of the Americas is a school that has run more dictators than any other school in the history of the world.”
- Congressman Joseph P. Kennedy II[83]
Huh, al Nursa is in charge of Syria. The people are rioting, despite al nursa front man collaborating with Zionist death squads.
