• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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    1 day ago

    that’s right, ebil Putin just woke up one morning and decided to invade Ukraine for no reason at all because Ruzzians are just a mindless horde of orcs coming from the jungle to threaten the great European garden

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      While there were prior issues and lots of missed opportunity to create better relationship with Russia (Minsk, the defense initiative in the middle East against terrorism, etc. You probably have more examples than me ), none of theses justify to invade a country and steal lands for a second time and sending 1.5M of your comrades to the meatgrinder. Putain choose war over diplomatie, hoping to bring back the USSR splendor.

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        Merkel and Zelensky have admitted that they never had any intention of honoring Minsk, but instead use it as a stalling tactic while further arming Ukraine.

        This is the war the imperialists wanted: to poke the bear until it inevitably responded, and then claim that the response was “unprovoked”.

        1.5M of your comrades to the meatgrinder

        They’re not my comrades, and meat grinder/meat wave was bullshit, fascist propaganda during WWII and is still bullshit, fascist propaganda today.

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        the feather to broke this camels back is when the ukranians started shelling the east of the country for wanting to break away – like isreal is doing to gazans rn – and that’s provocation enough.

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          That’s just the excuse that started the war. Russia fueled the fire by funding proxies to disrupt the targetted region to then be able to claim “see, need to intervene !” while denouncing colonialism. Can’t have it both way mate.

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            Wrong on all accounts. Russia’s actions are completely justified and I hope the Nazi plague in Ukraine is completely eradicated in a way that shows the rest of Europe that any attempts to revive Nazism/Fascism will be met with such harsh force, they’ll most likely cease to exist aa countries

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              All justified, so colonialism is acceptable in your Lemmygrad view ?

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                    11 hours ago

                    Meaningless liberal definition that can be selectively applied or laughed off depending on context. What relationships does this imply economically, culturally? Is colonialism what the U.S. and Israel are doing in Iran right now? Stupid definition.

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              You mean the pictures from lefty.pictures from the dude who talk about bag of shit? Incredible sources, wow, so much convinced

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                They’re fucking real you dummy. Libs like you have a biological instinct to just outright react badly and filter out anything that contradicts your worldview that you have been fed since birth.

                Seriously the articles in this image for example are from your darling western media that you take in as absolute truth.

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                  11 hours ago

                  Sure, lefty.picture is surely not an echo chamber and a great source of news ! Do you know what cherry picking is ?

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                    11 hours ago

                    You are not even engaging with anything shown to you. You just have a kneejerk reaction of ignoring everything to proceed crying and shitting yourself. Follow your leader, fascist.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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        NATO overthrowing a legitimate government to install a fascist regime and potentially put nukes next to Russian border does in fact justify the reaction Russia had, which is the same reaction any other major power would have in the same situation. Russia did not choose war over diplomacy, and tried to do diplomacy for nearly a decade.

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          That’s your analysis and not really what happened imho. There was no nuke in Ukraine.

          Ukraine was not a fascism regime like Mussolini’s, and even if you truly believed that they were, it would be very naive to believe that a dictator invaded Ukraine for the peoples and not their geopolitical games.

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            Since your opinion is rooted in deep ignorance, it can be safely ignored. Maybe spend a bit of time educating yourself on the subject before forming opinions next time.