• MaxLemminist@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    That was a reaction to another round of sanctions they just implemented against Russia.
    But sure, sell it like another unprovoked Russian escalation.
    And ‘let them be scared’?
    Can the scaremongering get any more literal?

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      1 day ago

      I wonder which country started an invasion on their neighbors during a three days military operation

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        that’s right, ebil Putin just woke up one morning and decided to invade Ukraine for no reason at all because Ruzzians are just a mindless horde of orcs coming from the jungle to threaten the great European garden

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          While there were prior issues and lots of missed opportunity to create better relationship with Russia (Minsk, the defense initiative in the middle East against terrorism, etc. You probably have more examples than me ), none of theses justify to invade a country and steal lands for a second time and sending 1.5M of your comrades to the meatgrinder. Putain choose war over diplomatie, hoping to bring back the USSR splendor.

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            Merkel and Zelensky have admitted that they never had any intention of honoring Minsk, but instead use it as a stalling tactic while further arming Ukraine.

            This is the war the imperialists wanted: to poke the bear until it inevitably responded, and then claim that the response was “unprovoked”.

            1.5M of your comrades to the meatgrinder

            They’re not my comrades, and meat grinder/meat wave was bullshit, fascist propaganda during WWII and is still bullshit, fascist propaganda today.

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            the feather to broke this camels back is when the ukranians started shelling the east of the country for wanting to break away – like isreal is doing to gazans rn – and that’s provocation enough.

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              That’s just the excuse that started the war. Russia fueled the fire by funding proxies to disrupt the targetted region to then be able to claim “see, need to intervene !” while denouncing colonialism. Can’t have it both way mate.

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                Wrong on all accounts. Russia’s actions are completely justified and I hope the Nazi plague in Ukraine is completely eradicated in a way that shows the rest of Europe that any attempts to revive Nazism/Fascism will be met with such harsh force, they’ll most likely cease to exist aa countries

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                  All justified, so colonialism is acceptable in your Lemmygrad view ?

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                  You mean the pictures from lefty.pictures from the dude who talk about bag of shit? Incredible sources, wow, so much convinced

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            NATO overthrowing a legitimate government to install a fascist regime and potentially put nukes next to Russian border does in fact justify the reaction Russia had, which is the same reaction any other major power would have in the same situation. Russia did not choose war over diplomacy, and tried to do diplomacy for nearly a decade.

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              That’s your analysis and not really what happened imho. There was no nuke in Ukraine.

              Ukraine was not a fascism regime like Mussolini’s, and even if you truly believed that they were, it would be very naive to believe that a dictator invaded Ukraine for the peoples and not their geopolitical games.

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                Since your opinion is rooted in deep ignorance, it can be safely ignored. Maybe spend a bit of time educating yourself on the subject before forming opinions next time.

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        You must be an october 7 guy.
        Definitely nothing happened before that right?
        Definitely not a nazi coup funded and orchestrated by the west.
        I bet you were still pissing your diapers in 2014

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            You seems to like diverting to avoid explaining the inconvenient facts.
            Nothing new I guess, you people have been doing it since 2014.
            I’ve seen better nazi collaborators

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              Why would I bother debating with you? You seems to believe you know me, I don’t need to challenge your assumptions

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                you’re making it personal again and deflecting.
                You are not worth debating since you have nothing to offer of relevance. I do not claim to know you and don’t care too.
                I corrected your BS and that’s enough for me.
                You simply can not go into the nazi coup and its causes and consequences because you know you will fail.
                You’re just like the genociders who know their genocide is indefensible and start screaming about antisemitism to get out of it.

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                  Not sure how you make those links so fast.

                  Kinda forgot I was interacting with .ml when I originally posted, my bad.

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        i wonder which country funded white supremacist paramilitary groups to destabilize a country.

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      and they’re going to get a lot of people killed and cause a lot of misery – but i guess that’s what europe is really good at doing.

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        Its fine. Europe deserves some of its own pain after delivering it to the third world for so long.

        Let them suffer, let thousands perish. Its the devil of their own making