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      I love how a simple and obvious critique of the perpetual failure which is the Democratic party is almost routinely met with the Hey this isn’t cheerleading?! retort.

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          No it’s not. Don’t be a fucking moron.

          Democrats have earned every fucking iota of critism that can be mustered and it’s 💯 deservered.

          What actually hurts Democrats is this unnecessary, thoughtless, cheerleader protection you offer them.

          Democrats can’t do better if they don’t change, entirely, as a party, and guarding them from well warranted critism has done lasting and material damage to their ability to be a bulwark agaisnt fascism. You hurt Democrats chances when you dismiss critiques of them with this kind of “but Republicans bad too” shit.

          As an enterpuse, Blue MAGA is largely respond for the revivL of fascism and this act you are putting on, it’s central how that process functions.

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            Name-calling, classy. The sign of a well-reasoned argument.

            Also, what are you even talking about!? The issue is timing, as in "let’s not give the asshole fascists and MAGAts this election happened right fucking now. You haven’t addressed the main topic we’re discussing at all! No one in this thread is saying not to criticize Democrats…

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              Fresh out of the nest I suppose…

              This has been a primary topic of conservation on political lemmy, and before that reddit, for years. You being new to a discussion doesn’t mean the discussion is new. As a collective we’ve been having this discussion for a very long time. No, its not a coincidence that critiques about how objectively anti-democratic the Democratic party is often emerge around elections. There is an election, its time for critiques like that. Its also not your fucking place to decide for other people when is the right time for criticism or not. You can deal with the critique on its merits, or you can shut the fuck up. Otherwise you are doing precisely what I’m accusing you of.

              No one in this thread is saying not to criticize Democrats…

              No see thats exactly what’s happening and its exactly what you are doing. And it spoiled the election for Democrats in '24 by allowing them to continue with an internal process which is structurally manufactured to ignore the will of the voting population.

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            That’s because liberals only pay attention to politics at election time . We hate liberals all the time

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      oh no someone’s robbing the bank, somebody do something!

      don’t worry, I’ve got a banana peel and some lint from my pocket!

      how is that gonna help?

      you’re being defeatist!