Fair enough, I appreciate you adding some nuance to your argument and I can see where you’re coming from. I think their argument for a ban is actually way more feasible than Labor openly criticising the US, though. Labor clearly tries very hard to avoid offending this US administration and would never take a such a strong stand on an issue like this.

Whether a ban would actually be effective in terms of stopping every Australian from viewing the execution is another issue, but in terms of actually implementing something that may have some level of effect, a ban is pretty sensible. That’s exactly the type of solution Labor would go for.

I kind of agree in the sense that (in my view) preventing Australians from watching the US execution is a kind of a fridge issue - possibly a distraction from more important issues, possible a unnecessarily divisive position for The Greens to take. (Probably most people agree that broadcasting the execution is bad; but many people are sensitive about censorship.)

So in that sense perhaps it is a politically unsavvy thing for The Greens to take a position on. But on the other hand, saying & doing stuff like this is what gets them into the media. When The Greens are only talking about pencil-pushing bean-counting by-the-numbers sensible policies on core issues - they are simply ignored. A few people nod and say ‘fair call’, and no one says anything. No one spreads the word. And so very very few people hear anything about it. So when The Green stick to their core message, they just don’t heard. So these little provocative foraying to side-issue end up being pretty much the only news many people hear about The Greens at all.

Search online which country is seen as the bigger threat to the world, Americans will be shocked. The surveys are conducted on regular basis so there isn’t any room for mental gymnastics.

Since the inception, USA has always been imperialist and since the end of World War II, has been involved in more global conflicts than any other countries. USA merely operates on “lesser evil” framework. And up until recently, USA has been secular, but democratic? Hardly to begin with. Just ask black Americans, Native Americans, Filipinos, Vietnamese, Iraqis and Latin Americans. The US ignored the UN resolutions many times, especially on not invading Iraq under false pretense of hiding weapons of mass destruction. So, USA has always been a terrorist state but in different name and face. I would go so far as to say that Trump took off the facade of the country as the shining beacon on the hill. After all, American people had been demanding for authenticity.

Exactly, to spread terror. You’ve correctly identified that motive is a part of the definition. Congrats.

The US is chiefly concerned with fighting militants for material strategic goals, and has laws against targetting civilians.

ISIS is chiefly concerned with butchering anyone, regardless of civilian status, to gain, and maintain through fear, power in a region.

Don’t forget Al-Qaeda and Hồ Chí Minh! Both products of US intelligence agencies training, and equipping. Until they were dropped. And left to get angry at those same agencies that used them!

I mean if you want to argue that it should be an even standard across the board I might agree with you, like I would hold Iran in infinitely lower esteem for hanging political dissidents, to say nothing of them doing it publically.

But something rubs me the wrong way about America, the shining city on the hill, even dipping its toes in this kind of barbaric spectacle.

Whether it’s because I hold them to a higher standard, or because I view it as a betrayal of what liberal democracy means.

I think it’s Australia’s problem if Australia doesn’t want Australian citizens watching this psychopathic garbage.

Usually I’m against censorship, but I understand completely where they’re coming from here.

Well if Covid wasn’t enough of a window. I don’t know what else anyone else can do to show how fucking dumb humans truly are.

My mother included. She’s now a self confessed, self congratulatory, fully immunised, cooker.

It would seem that way, but the truth is somehow worse. Most Americans simply don’t care. It’s not that they don’t know enough to care, they simply don’t care enough to know. Accepting it, perpetuating it, or even cheering it on takes some degree or stage of caring in one way or another, most Americans (and dare I say Westerners in general) aren’t even interested in the conversation.

the usa is a warmongering duopoly, not a democracy.

America is evil, got it 👍

What should we do about it?

This is hopefully a 1 time ‘event’, blocking access to this would have an immediate effect, the issue would be that once this is online, there will be multiple ways in future to view it, and sick f*cks who wish to do so.

A decent government would still oppose this, and would attempt to block access to it.

Serious question? Or trolling?

Remove access is not the same as remove content

Being a pedant is not the same as making a valid point.