• Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.world
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    Conservative rural voters don’t detest datacenters, they detest density, traffic, noise, etc. they assume datacenters will bring. This same “not in my backyard”-ism defeats other things that would be environmentally good, but sometimes folksy ignorance happens by chance to do the right thing.

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      50 minutes ago

      Yes. But it is important to note that ACTUAL Democrats and left wing candidates in local elections are not the same as the corporate neoliberals

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    8 hours ago

    There’s a travel Youtuber I used to watch who goes around to places in the US to “just ask questions” to the locals. (read: looks for conservative opinions)

    He has a couple of videos where he goes to natural disaster affected areas. The locals said in the Trump years the government provided more support than the Biden administration. I’m finding that kind of hard to believe considering the news stories seem to say the opposite.

    Polls might go one way or the other on certain issues, but the GOP has done a good job of psychologically priming their base to reflexively default voting for them in the end.

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    9 hours ago

    I’ll believe it when Trump is hanging from a lamppost. Until then, these headlines are disinformation and should be disregarded.

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    9 hours ago

    Never going to happen.

    Watching all the farmers on TikTok blame "Washington " for their current trade woes have taught me that they will not do one thing to change their political “views”. They will never vote for the market liberals.

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    Strong guarantee that the data center issue is not enough to get conservatives voting for any democrat no matter how much they talk about jesus or whatever

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    It is seriousely beyond me that for so many people it first has to hurt them before they react. Instead of thinking long term based and not short term emotional and egotistical

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      I’ve witnessed so much of it at this point that I’ve come to accept it.

      It still hurts to watch though. Nothing you do will convince them until they hurt just like the rest of us. Even if you tell them that it will hurt them eventually, even if you beg and plead for their own safety, until they feel that pain they won’t care.

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      they got their abortion ‘win’, guns aren’t being ‘taken away’, dipshit is doing a bang-up job hating the ‘correct people’ and shredding social services, and the climate change hoax is sufficiently contained (it is not, but these are science deniers)…

      so i guess there’s no single issue left that’s calling them… so ‘data centers’ it is.

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    It’s not the data centers that people hate, it’s the total, absolute lack of care of human well being that can only come from conservative leadership implementing said data center, the software, the laws, the AI, the jobs, the taxes, the society, etc.

    Oh wait, this isn’t actually about datacenters at all, it’s because Republicans are fucking awful human beings and awful at everything, and are ruining everything.

    Wow! 🌈 🔔 🎉

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      that is why all these massive AI datancenters are mostly in republican/rural areas, they know there will be little to no pushback from the gop controlled states, or the people living there. republicans in general do not protests en masse, they may vote this one time against them.

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    20 hours ago

    Decades of leftist organizing couldn’t do it. One server farm drinking the town aquifer to make AI slop did it in a year.

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      Rural American voters weren’t actually the conservative base they are today until relatively recently, at least not in all the same ways we see them today. Through the first half of the 20th century rural mine workers and even agriculturalists all over were part of progressive movements of their time.

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    More copium for the masses. No one is leaving MAGA. Anyone smart enough to do this would have done it back when he was found to have raped children. The rest are bought and paid for simps.

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    It’s funny I see this interviews etc… and I’m still not convinced

    the dumbest rural 24/7 fox news watching, over 50 year old, truck driving, mozzarella stick and ice cream treat eating, “Applebee’s, redlobster and olive garden are fancy eatin” Hogs will never vote in a democrat.

    Like if Kansas, Iowa, or Nebraska flips blue maybe I’ll change my mind

    if Mississippi flips blue I’ll go to church

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      Best you can hope for with people that deep in the red mindset is to discourage them from voting. They can’t bring themselves to vote for a “Dumbocrat”, but if they hate their own party’s option enough, they won’t vote for them either, just stay home in miserable despair.

      That’s what we have to hope for.

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    A shitton of voters will NEVER vote for a Dem, no matter how bad things get. For some it’s gun rights, for others it’s being anti-abortion or anti-LGBT, and most believe liberals are EXTREMISTS because Fox News pounds that into their brain 24/7.

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      With how close our elections typically are, you don’t need to convince every single one, just picking away at the fringes should be enough

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      i wonder if they would change their behavior even if both parties changed their stances on the issues, like republicans calling for gun bans (for anyone on their shitlist) and democrats to keep it as it is

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        Well the funny thing is, it was Republicans that suggested taking guns from trans people. I think this confused MAGA. They didn’t know if they should be pro-guns or anti-trans.

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          Lmao.

          I can’t even think of anything they do other than ban assault weapons and implement red flag laws. They just usually say “sensible gun reform”, and, like, everyone agrees with that, so I just don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.

          Legitimately, the only time I hear about Dems attacking guns is when there’s a fucking election and Republicans and gun manufacturers claim they’ll take your guns away. I’m still waiting on Obama to take my guns.

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            even they cant be THAT stupid, that seems deliberate. It would be really interesting to know what they scheme behind closed doors and with who.

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            They just usually say “sensible gun reform”, and, like, everyone agrees with that

            I don’t mean to be disrespectful, but you are deeply out of touch with American gun owners if you think “everyone agrees with” “sensible gun reform.” Lots of gun owners vote purely to maintain the same level of access to guns we have now. They call it voting “straight 2A” and they will never vote for any Democrat because they perceive them as “gun grabbers” who are negotiating in bad faith.

            America has so many guns that to do anything about it we need to talk about a serious cultural transformation on a level with “Japan banning people from carrying swords in public” paired with the kind of mutual, transparent disarmament that happens in countries after a civil war. “Sensible gun reform” is an interesting idea because it simultaneously doesn’t go nearly far enough and is also considered way too extreme by many gun owners.

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              Fair. I do still think that everyone agrees with that because while these people don’t want anyone to touch any rights, they’ll ostensibly agree that “some people” shouldn’t have guns, whether that’s criminals or “criminals” or what have you.

              So, in a way, I do think even 2A people agree, they just don’t think that it is either possible (“criminals will just ignore the law” like you can just find guns wherever) or that it’s the intention behind gun control (going after political dissidents).

              My statement was more that the gun control that Democrats propose is basically nothing, and that it’s just a fucking wedge issue that also happens to consistently make gun manufacturers money. Are Dems supposed to lie and say letting teachers have guns solves gun violence in schools to appease these fuckers? Like, what the fuck are we talking about here?

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            Wasn’t Reagan the one who initially implemented California’s restrictive gun laws?

            And, of course, we all know which president said “take the guns first, go through due process second” during his first term. But, to be fair, Obama’s been living rent-free in that guy’s head for more than a decade…

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              Wasn’t Reagan the one who initially implemented California’s restrictive gun laws?

              Yes, because the black panthers were doing the kind of things that white gun owners fantasize about (actually using the guns for community self defense)