I was originally going to ask how many legal genders there should be, but I fail to see a compelling argument against 0.

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    We don’t. They’re entirely immaterial to a modern world.

    The instant 2 atheists got married, it opened the door to people of any gender pairing to get married. Marriage is just a social contact between 2 consenting adults ahemwith tax incentives. Only religion dictated which genders are allowed to do what.

    Conservative hand wringing over public restroom use is mitigated by making all bathrooms gender neutral. Easy fix.

    What else? Pink is for whoever the fuck likes it, you salmon short wearing closeted frat bros. You do you. Blue is for people doing Frozen cosplay. I dunno, gendered colors are so stupid.

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        Because conservative rich kids wear pink “ironically” as a flex that they’re rich, and therefore “manly enough” that they de-gender pink as a color.

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              Let me reframe my original question. How does making gender neutral bathrooms neutralize conservatives concern over restrooms? That’s literally what they’re concerned about.

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                It can’t. Their identity is wrapped up in the expectation that most people, like them, lack impulse control and can’t be trusted in any situation where genitals are involved. They think every horror imaginable is only seconds away from happening in every bathroom.

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                  No, they have separate values that make their priorities in this debate separate from your own.

                  So was your third paragraph meant as sarcasm then?

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      Those are good points. Genders and gendered colors always were inconvenient to me. I hate how women’s gym shoes are always shitty colors and I have to worry about people offended because of traditional gender roles. It’s annoying af.

      Pink is not considered feminine in many countries. Also, marriage is not Christian. Hindus, muslims, Buddhists, pagans, and all kind of folks get married and have before Christians existed. It’s not one man and one woman. Massai warriors and Mormons have lots of wives.

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        Some amount of gendered colors is a useful social shortcut. When our children were babies, we painted the nursery green because that’s my favorite color, and otherwise didn’t bother much with color. However when we went out we tended to have some obvious blue to make it simpler to talk about our baby. It’s easier for someone to say “he’s cute” because he has a blue blanket, than to have the “boy or girl?” Discussion.

        Similarly our dog has a pink collar because it’s easier for someone to say “she’s cute” rather than “boy or girl?” And have some random person checking her genitals. It’s only here on Lemmy where people get pornographic about mention of a dog where they don’t know the gender

        It’s just a problem when it’s forced, or excessive, or becomes someone’s identity

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          Good point. Also babies don’t have different body types so I guess you can use whatever you want. Unlike when I see cool shoes but the women’s sizes a pink or shitty pastel colors while boys get cool stuff.

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        Well and even in the West, pink and blue didn’t used to be gendered like they are. 100+ years ago yellow was boys, light blue for girls. So the gendering isn’t even static, it’s as fluid as gender itself.

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      I know it’s just a typo/autocorrect, but I seriously chuckled at “tax invectives.”

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        Thanks for the catch. I didn’t have my glasses so the blur of text looked like the right blur.

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            Hey, a constant point John Hodgeman makes on his judgement podcast is that long term cohabitation without the tax breaks is foolish. There no reason to give the state more money just to stick it to convention.