and should be treated no different than if somebody throws sleeping pills into your drinks

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    I get you’re upset but 100% of people would choose a breath of second hand smoke over getting drugged. Come on now

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    Smoking is bad and 2nd hand smoke is bad, there’s a whole lot of science about it. A lot of country/government already set up no-smoking zone(as in the whole area), whether you’re indoor or outdoor, and some country already have a law that ban indoor smoking everywhere. ICE car caused the same issue, while the regulation of exhaust emission is there it still is an issue that not a lot of country are willing to look at.

    Not sure why this post getting downvoted tbh.

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      maybe because it’s conflating something selfish and bad (public smoking) with something reprehensible and extremely dangerous (surreptitiously drugging someone with sleeping pills)

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    And when we are at it, having to breath in toxic fumes from gas/fuel powered engines should be classified the same.

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    the worst part is that smokers’ sense of smell is fucked so they dont even realize how bad it is for everyone around them

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    Only if the same applies to perfume, cologne, aftershave, body spray, and body odor, and farts, and garlic burps, and fish in the microwave, fireworks, popcorn is ok, unless you burn it, then it’s at least 6 months in jail. Also, building managers are going to have to be held responsible for old ventilation systems and mustiness.

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      The real issue is the negative health effects from air pollution, regardless of it’s caused by smoking or not. I don’t think the point was “ban smoking cause it smells bad” but rather “ban smoking because of the significant cancer risk, including in secondhand smokers.”

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    This is extreme, but I will admit l am a fan of the UK’s plan to continually raise the age to purchase them until there’s an entire generation that will never be able to purchase them legally.

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    I’m all for vices that make life a bit easier but smoking is never treated with consent for the non smoking stranger.

    I’ve never been asked by a stranger if they can light one up.

    Women shouldn’t be banned from taking xtc at a club because some asshole likes to spike drinks. It’s the consent not the act itself.

    Smoking zones work.

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    Just where do you expect people to smoke? Even if you don’t like it, people still have a right to do it and that should be respected. They’ve already been forced outdoors when in public, what more do you expect?

    should be treated no different than if somebody throws sleeping pills into your drinks

    Lmfao. Nice bait.

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      The most smokingest smoker response I think I could have expected from the type of personality that is prone to seeing the world as their personal ashtray.

      Cope.

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          That was for your overstressed endocrine and immune systems and liver, as involuntarily tasked with managing the toxins you voluntarily introduce to your body’s most sensitive organs as the rest of your environment is with having to breathe, smell, and deal with your discarded butts. It was also for any descendants you may have created with epigentic disadvantages making their lives harder to deal with than had you chosen not to self medicate with nicotine via possibly the stupidest delivery method ever invented. No, you seem to already be coping just fine through entitled disregard for yourself, others, and whatever medical system will have to deal with your self-induced health issues and those of the people who have to be around your pollution, albeit “diluted.”

          Enjoy your habit, you sound well prepared to deal with its future consequences.

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    We’re all sharing space, some of us a lot of the time. It can be rude to smoke up a high traffic area at the same time that it’s rude to make a big deal about it.

    Perhaps the rural life is for you!

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      Those 2 things aren’t even remotely equal. Smokers are fucking idiots.

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        Maybe so, but their secondhand smoke outdoors is of very low concentration. It is not the old days where we’re growing up indoors around a bunch of smokers everywhere. The smoke you smell walking by those people can be hurting less than getting elevated blood pressure about it.

        It can help to take some time for perspective on matters like this. That smoker is not hurting anything so much that taking an effort to stop him is at all likely to be an effective use of your energy compared other uses of that same amount of energy. One can spend one’s whole life working to exhaustion and achieve nothing if his efforts are misapplied.

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          It says a lot about the nature of addiction when people go out of their way to try and reason and rationalize the impact of their substance of choice. I don’t want to breathe in your smoke, OK? Smoke doesn’t give me that option because it permeates. You’re in the wrong if you smoke around anyone. Period.

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          All those “misapplied efforts” got smoking banned on planes, restaurants, schools, busses, … Sometimes giving yourself high blood pressure pays off