- cross-posted to:
- world@lemmy.world
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- world@lemmy.world
A 22-year-old German politician who secretly served in Ukraine’s army now faces expulsion from the pro-Russian Alternative for Germany party after calling his own leadership “Russia-kissers.”
Do you think that Russia is the only one doing propaganda?
Clearly no one said that.
Russia’s genocide is well documented from multiple independent sources.
I’m all ears.
Sure you are.
So? I haven’t come across any of those “multiple, indepentent sources”. Care to share some of them? I’m genuinely curious. I’m about as happy to be convinced as one can be learning about a supposed ongoing genocide.
That’s great! Since you’re so motivated and invested to being informed, you will find it very easy to find it yourself on the internet!
Wouldn’t you know it: I already checked. Wanna know what stories I found? Slaughter of civilians? Yes. War crimes? Sure. Kidnapping of children in Ukraine? You bet. Full-blown genocide?
… umm, sorry to say that, but I kinda didn’t find anything that convinced me that Russia wants to exterminate the Ukrainian people and their culture. There’s a magnitude of scale between bombing civilians and direct measures to eradicate a people.
Personally, I don’t really think it matters on a personal level if I’m killed by Russian bombs because they shell civilian infrastructure or if I’m killed on the battlefield because the Ukrainian government drafted me (against my will) and they didn’t want to give up control over Crimea, Donbasz and Donetsk.
Kidnapping children and suppression of their language IS genocide.
The Russian state has, on multiple occasions over the years, denied the existence of Ukraine and Ukrainians as a distinct group with a right to exist.
This is why I don’t bother. You have an agenda and you will only see what you want to see.
I have better things to do. You want to support imperial genocide? You go right ahead.
I don’t think it’s as clear cut as e.g. the charter schools in the so-called US. These kids were in a warzone and I’d rather see them in Russian schools than casualties lying in some mass grave. It’s still fucking horrible, but I still see the difference in magnitude.
Nope. Putin claimed that Russians, Ukrainians and Belarussians are “one people”. That’s not “denying the right of existence”. Danes, Norwegians, Swedes, Icelanders and Fins always call themselves “the Northerners” without wanting to annex each other.
Well, I could accuse you of the same.
Now where did you get the idea that I support what Russia is doing? In the first comment you replied to I clearly stated that I condoned neither Russia nor Ukraine.
My stance is that the territorial interests of Ukraine aren’t worth all the Ukrainians that are still sent into the meatgrinder.