• Dessalines@lemmy.ml
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    4 days ago

    These rare-earths embargos are going to cause so many shakeups of western-aligned governments, alienating their domestic capitalists from the pro-US ruling parties.

    The US cannot transmute USD into rare-earth minerals, and these countries are going to have to come down from the clouds to reality, and either pick China over the US, or accept ruin of their economies.

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          3 days ago

          True as well, but afaik, Canada has a considerably large amount of proven RE reserves, basically the most after China and Russia.

          My numbers there might be slightly off, but I’d be thinking Central and South America would be primarily getting couped for oil or perhaps farm/pasture land.

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            2 days ago

            The bottleneck is refining capacity, not ore. A bunch of countries have rare earths, but only China has the factories, skilled workforce and scientists.

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              23 hours ago

              This is also true and very immediately relevant for the near/medium term.

              But, if the US as a state/cabal of rulers is even still at all capable of long term planning, presumably they would realize the near medium and long term… ‘problems’ that could be ‘solved’ by at least starting the process of controlling the territory with the thing they need now and almost certainly will need in the future.

              I mean this is simplifying but think of it like iron in a civilization game. Its a critical strategic resource… very likely ‘worth’ fighting over, unless you are exceedingly competent in many other realms of statecraft.

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                There’s no near term solution to the problem.

                Unlike a strategy game where you can just seize a strategic resource and immediately begin using it, in the real world it would be many years or possibly even decades after seizing a territory before they’d be able to actually get any use out of it. Everything from finding workers to developing infrastructure to buying insurance becomes really hard once a territory becomes disputed.

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                  22 hours ago

                  I agree with all that.

                  But we are both, or each, more rational than rabid US Christian Fascists and Neoliberal Zionist/Corporate Fascists.

                  As I think is well evidenced by the US’s objectively delusional uh, ‘foreign policy stance’, toward Iran.

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                    22 hours ago

                    There’s no way to maintain the empire and also preserve access to China’s minerals. They either need to capitulate and negotiate with China (unacceptable because it ends their domination) or they need to start a war to occupy strategic resources (which we both agree won’t work). Their fascism is actually a response to the irreversible decline of their empire, it’s the only choice remaining that doesn’t involve admitting defeat.

                    It only delays the inevitable, but it does delay it. This is where the gerontocracy plays a role: it’s rational for an 80+ imperialist to delay the decline of the empire, because when it inevitably implodes they’ll be dead anyway and they hate their children so who cares?