I do think there are responsible ways to build data centers, they have been around for a long time now - just the scale and speed and cutting corners happening now is something awful.
There is no modernity without data centers, this message between us could not exist without data centers - but what is going on now with these large AI companies and hyperscalers and the giant market speculation and spectre of the looming pop of this huge economic bubble … That all is madness to the highest degree.
I’m not really disagreeing with you completely but I do think there are good use cases if the technology is applied well and the infrastructure is built responsibly in the way that causes the least environmental impact. That’s not happening though.
To be clear, this isn’t about data centers. It’s about unrestricted AI data centers. The difference between a normal scale data center and a hyperscale AI data center from a water use perspective is 6 million gallons a year vs over 2 billion gallons a year. Like, they’re not even close. We had responsible data centers and life was fine. Now it’s not.
I’m aligned with you on that. Also speaking as someone in the USA … We desperately need electrical infrastructure overhauled, invested in and nationalized. The state needs to intervene and help support the American people. Really all of our public infrastructure desperately needs help. So do a lot of people who are looking for work. We spend billions of dollars on killing kids but we can’t fucking spend some to employ folks in massive green energy grid public works projects and kill two birds with one stone?
It’s embarrassing. FDR, our most popular president, literally implemented all of these kind of policies - it’s insane the Democratic party keeps shying away from them.
I do think there are responsible ways to build data centers, they have been around for a long time now - just the scale and speed and cutting corners happening now is something awful.
There is no modernity without data centers, this message between us could not exist without data centers - but what is going on now with these large AI companies and hyperscalers and the giant market speculation and spectre of the looming pop of this huge economic bubble … That all is madness to the highest degree.
I’m not really disagreeing with you completely but I do think there are good use cases if the technology is applied well and the infrastructure is built responsibly in the way that causes the least environmental impact. That’s not happening though.
To be clear, this isn’t about data centers. It’s about unrestricted AI data centers. The difference between a normal scale data center and a hyperscale AI data center from a water use perspective is 6 million gallons a year vs over 2 billion gallons a year. Like, they’re not even close. We had responsible data centers and life was fine. Now it’s not.
I’m aligned with you on that. Also speaking as someone in the USA … We desperately need electrical infrastructure overhauled, invested in and nationalized. The state needs to intervene and help support the American people. Really all of our public infrastructure desperately needs help. So do a lot of people who are looking for work. We spend billions of dollars on killing kids but we can’t fucking spend some to employ folks in massive green energy grid public works projects and kill two birds with one stone?
It’s embarrassing. FDR, our most popular president, literally implemented all of these kind of policies - it’s insane the Democratic party keeps shying away from them.