• samus12345@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    If you’re a “both sides equally bad” type without more moral objections to one side over the other, you’re in the clear!

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        I think my point still stands. Think both sides are wrong? Pick a side and help fix it; just get involved in your local politics as well as the national ones.

        I think the number of overall real human people who are for real human rights is vaaaaastly higher than the number of ghouls out there trying to take power by force. Get involved.

        I’ve been to several No-Kings protests (example, among others) and the number of Palestinian flags and the love those people get is undeniable. I don’t know anyone who is in support of genocide. I think there’s a very vocal minority of “people” - but probably a lot of money - that influence where policy goes. We can oust a zionist and/or corrupt politician before they become the front-runner by being in the gears. I think we do that by getting involved

        It might not be fast, but it’ll be faster than giving up. Get involved.


        In the shorter term, do you think that - of the options we have at this moment - there is a worse choice?

        How about you vote against them while getting involved.

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          I think you cowards should take up arms and “water the tree of liberty” or whatever goofy shit you guys believe in.

          There’s no fixing the country founded on slavery genocide and war.

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            That would be great! Better vote in the party that has even a few members who would support that rather than the one that has absolutely none. Have to start somewhere.

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              2 days ago

              So you agree that your country is evil and should be stopped. Then trump causing the collapse of the country is good for the rest of the planet, right?

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                No, because it will drag the rest of the world down with it. There are better ways to make its government at least less evil to start. Or, barring that, the rest of the world needs to further unhook its reliance on it so a collapse would have minimal impact on everyone else.

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                  Fair, I’m just hoping the rest of the world gets its shit together sooner rather than later and sanctions the country out of existence!

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                    While a redemption would be best, turning it into a pariah is second best if it can’t ever get its shit together. No matter what, though, its old role as the “world’s policeman” is over.

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        It’s funny how all you .mlers tacitly support Trump, or at the very least align your beliefs with his claims.

        Would Kamala have gotten us into a war with Iran, .mler? Wrong answers only.

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          Trump should have been executed after he tried to coup the government. Yes, Kamala campaigned with Liz Cheny on having the most lethal military in the world, there is a good chance she would have bombed Iran. At the very least she was going to continue to arm Israel to continue the job Biden accelerated.

          Are you advocating voting for a party guilty of genocide, lib?

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            Oh hey would you look at that, Stephen Miller claimed Kamala would have invaded Iran too.

            You guys fucking love Trump, just admit it

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                  I literally said he should have been executed, lmfao.

                  Sounds a little delusional, friend. And I don’t speak for an entire instance, as I’m sure most people on yours are thankful you don’t speak for all of them!

                  Edit: also, not a denial, this guy is literally pro genocide according to his own logic, lmao.

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                    Yet your messaging aligns directly with the fascists! Interesting how that works.

                    Also no, I’m not pro genocide. I just understand that petulantly shitting myself when the world doesn’t immediately bend to my whim is an ineffective strategy. Something you’ve yet to figure out, which is why what you say and what Stephen Miller says aligns.

                    Just admit that you love the Trump presidency