• Corvid_Moon@lemmy.ca
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    2 hours ago

    Speaking of which, I’ve always been curious to try “investing in stocks”, but have no idea how. Does anyone have tips on starting?

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      1. Don’t seek advice on a meme forum
      2. Use common sense, a company that has had profits for the last 5 years is probably a good investment.
      3. Seek information online, with the biggest grain of salt imagineable. If an investment bro or comment online seem manic or urgent, it is a bad investment. Those are the people you are suppose to be profiting from.
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    3 hours ago

    Absolutely not a stunning revelation. Stock brokers and others in the industry have always used betting terminology pretty openly.

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    8 hours ago

    It is gambling attached to a ponzi scheme. It kind of works so long as growth can keep up, but if it ever stops and reverses for any reason…

    Unrelated, how are sea surface temperatures going nowadays?

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      8 hours ago

      No, because you still have to do work and make a product when farming. The same can’t be said for gambling.

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        gambling

        the activity of risking money on the result of something, such as a game or horse race, hoping to make money

        Agriculture fits: you put in resources and hope that weather/pests/etc. will leave enough for you to survive

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    13 hours ago

    I wouldn’t say that common stock trading is gambling, but futures and options trading definitely is.

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      8 hours ago

      The way stocks are meant to work, it isn’t gambling. It is an investment in a company in order to help them grow and gain a return from that.

      The way people use it now, it is gambling.

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      9 hours ago

      As a futures trader, I can confirm that trading futures is gambling. Like poker, if you know what you’re doing, you can make a living. Most people can’t make a living playing poker, and 95% of traders are not profitable.

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        gambling has negative expected value, the house always wins in the long run.

        the stock market has pretty much always trended up over time so if you just buy a bunch of stuff and wait a while you will pretty much always win. (you can still gamble with stocks, it’s just that stocks are fundamentally different and you can also not gamble)

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    15 hours ago

    Andrew Beyer’s horse racing book “On Speed” (from the 70/80’s iirc?) showed that a long while ago the basic math for the stock market is very much similar to how paramutual horse / dog betting works.

    it is gambling all the way down.

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      7 hours ago

      Hey kids! We heard you like video games! How would you like to foster a gambling addiction while playing them?

      We’ll make them free-to-play and help you develop these lifelong habits in your youth! Yay!

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    19 hours ago

    Honestly… Yeah. Outside of insider trading, there’s no real way to know what the future holds, so every stock and every bond is just a gamble with varying levels of risk (or Crypto if you like getting rug-pulled over and over)

    Life in of itself is way more about being lucky than most people at the top would like you to think about

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      18 hours ago

      While this has changed, used to be you could look at the financials of a company and determine whether it was a reasonably good long-term investment, so you could pretty consistently build wealth with a diverse array of investments. With algorithmic trading down to the millisecond, much of this has gone out the window

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      18 hours ago

      Yeah, I was going to say something similar. What job you take, where you decide to live, friends you make all have a risk/reward element to them.

      That being said I do believe there is a big difference between polymarket/prediction markets and stocks (or at least some stocks). Prediction markets is either betting on pure chance or against insider knowledge. Technically stocks should be seen as investing in a company (especially ones that pay dividends). Could a company run into hard times and lose you money, sure, but there is at least a bit more freely available information on that available to you.

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    I was watching the World Series last night and made a comment in a chat about how ads and companies these days in the US are just one grift after another. Seriously, the ads were:

    • AI (multiple companies)
    • Medications that are borderline poison but somehow get approved anyway
    • Kalshi and other betting platforms

    The US creates problems for its citizens and then finds ways to sell them the cure. All of this has accelerated over the years and it’s just going to get worse.

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      Spouse was just watching something on some free streaming app and all the ads are ai generated and scams aimed at old people. This one was about some fake life insurance claims when it flashes a 1-2 second picture of this at the end where it tells you if you call they will add your information to their databases and sell it and you choose to void your rights and take yourself off the national do not call list…

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        15 hours ago

        My mom got hit with this kind of shit. It’s the reason she ended up with 10 car warranties. I overheard her answer the phone one day while I was at her house and it was the parasite warranty company again. I ripped that motherfucker a new one. Made him tell me exactly how many warranties he can see that she had prior, made him cancel them all while I was on the phone, all with the threat of legal recourse. After all of that, I told him to get a real job and to stop fucking over the elderly.

        A country that allows this, knows exactly what it’s doing. Just like the US government knew what it was doing when it repealed gambling regulations in 2018.

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    16 hours ago

    Jokes on you, I put all my savings in USD in 2000 and I’m only down 50%. I just gotta keep putting more in, I’ll win eventually.