First things first, I don’t doubt it is a bad thing, considering who supports it and who doesn’t.

But my question is what exactly is the issue and what is the current and proposed voting process when it comes to IDs?

Here in my EU country, you have to show some version of a government ID, be it an ID card, drivers license or passport. And we don’t have to pre-register to vote.

  • Toga77@lemmy.world
    52·
    5 hours ago

    We have the data on how often this happens, spoiler, it doesn’t, who does it, almost exclusively republicans, and how it happens generally, which is dead relatives.

    The call is coming from inside the home!

    • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      2·
      4 hours ago

      it doesn’t

      who does it, almost exclusively republicans, and how it happens generally, which is dead relatives

      Pick one lol.

      But how do you know I don’t go vote in place of my friend every time and write in Bruce Campbell because I think it’s funny, and I just don’t get caught? There’s literally no way to know, he’d have to vote for once to catch me.

      It’s like my mom said when I was a kid “you get caught EVERY TIME you do bad stuff…” yes mom, every time. Pay no attention to the 500 nights you didn’t catch me sneaking out, must not have snuck out yup that’s it, nothing to see here…

      • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
        4·
        4 hours ago

        Well it’s far simpler than you think. If your friend votes, then two votes bynhim show up. Easy detect. If you friend doesn’t, they also probably didn’t bother to register. So trying to vote as them won’t work, and will get you identified. You need someone you know registered and you know isn’t going to vote. It’s not super common to have that kind of situation and truely know they won’t vote. Thus they mentioned the dead relative situation. But that is detectable on audit.

        • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          13·
          3 hours ago

          If your friend votes

          Covered that already:

          he’d have to vote for once to catch me.

          There’s a reason I’m referring to my non-voting friend as non-voting, it’s to imply that he doesn’t vote, so that kinda sorta precludes the whole “he votes” thing anyway because the premise is that he does not, in fact, vote.

          they also probably didn’t bother to register.

          He was born with a penis, he’s registered for the draft since 18 and therefore to vote since 18 as well, because those are coupled for people born with a penis. Unless he changes his name (unlikely) or political affiliation (for what, to vote in primaries? He doesn’t vote.) Technically he should re-register because he changed his address, but again why would he if he doesn’t vote? Literally no consequences could befall him, there’s no incentive for him to do it. Bro I’m still registered at my mom’s despite having bought a house (which the government knows about because it’s public info), because it’s easier to just drive 15min to my old polling place every few years than to go fill out a form, been doing it for years, and I vote! There’s no way in hell he’s ever going to change that address from his parents’ just to continue not voting.

          You need someone you know registered

          Literally all 18+ AMABs in the US

          and you know isn’t going to vote.

          Know any AMABs that don’t vote? There’s one right there. Not as uncommon as you might think.

          • Toga77@lemmy.world
            2·
            19 minutes ago

            Except that the US and multiple organizations have conducted research on voter fraud and guess what it’s .003% of voting AND it’s nearly always the people clamoring for the ID.

            Don’t believe the bullshit.

    • Mulligrubs@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      3 hours ago
      1. Your first claim is not supported by “data”.
      2. Your second claim is not supported by anything…ever, and refutes your first claim.
      3. Your third claim refutes your first and second claim.

      good job