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    YOU WILL RECEIVE HEALTHCARE AND YOU MUST COMPLY WITH A MORE SUSTAINABLE ECONOMY!!!

    IF YOU REFUSE YOU WILL BE SUBJECTED TO A FREE AND COMPREHENSIVE EDUCATION APPLICABLE TO A BRIGHTER FUTURE FOR YOU AND YOUR LOVED ONES!!!

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      The horror the absolute horror!

      But what about my beloved HMO? What am I going to do without them and who’s going to pay them!!!

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    I don’t love a bunch of cis people posting shit like this when the 4 anti-trans ballot measures in Arizona, Colorado, and Washington all are about to be passed, including a college level bathroom ban in Arizona. It’s very tone deaf when trans rights (especially for minors) literally lost in a historic blue election.

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      Would a good solution just be to make all bathrooms gender neutral, and use more private stalls with concierge service like they do in Japan?

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        I mean in general gender-neutral bathrooms are a lot better due to non-binary people existing (and also are just more private and better in general), but its not super feasable to be able to just replace every public bathroom in the US with them at once. It also doesn’t necessarily address the issue of people not believing trans people are actually their gender (and sex too, the whole “gender is fluid, sex is unchangeable” thing is not really true and is a big part of the issue imo. It’s really the reason that “sex segregation” for sports or women’s spaces feels like something some liberals not educated on trans issues are tricked into believing is reasonable). That last part is a bit of a tangent (sorry lol), but gender neutral restrooms do feel like they’re partially an attempt to dodge actually addressing societal transphobia at large (at least for this one specific topic).

        Edit: Oh also forgot to mention, the Arizona bathroom ban is only 1 part of the measure, the main focus is on sports segregation, as are 2 of the other 3 measures (with the 4th being a gender affirming surgery ban for minors in Colorado which also did a sports one). That’s also worth mentioning since for these measures specifically bathrooms were really just a bonus bit of segregation tacked onto measures mostly dealing with sports.

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      thank you for saying this - it’s definitely quashing much of the enthusiasm I have for yesterday’s results. A historic blue wave coinciding with continued restriction of our rights in states previously thought “safe” makes me think there will not be much resistance to continued jettisoning of trans rights from the Democratic party.

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        Yeah I want to be happy, and I am for a lot of places, Texas turning blue has the opportunity to reverse so many of their state level anti-trans laws, a bunch of trans candidates won in red state legislatures, and we had a good number of very vocal trans-allies win in the national elections. But its all very soured by the 4 anti-trans ballot measures that seem likely to pass, the election of extremely transphobic dems like turek and kaptur, and vocal transphobes like acton winning the governorship. The gains for trans rights in red states are exciting, but at the same time a lot of blue states had the opposite.

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        There is an under appreciation for how many Democrat voters are still white Christians, or in lesser numbers Muslims and immigrants who are conservative but recognize the Republicans as an existential threat. Much of the Blue wave is still people who were gullible enough to believe Trump and that mess but have remembered how to read and do math enough to recognize that the Republicans are hurting them personally and the US in general.

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      So many of these bigotry laws will end up hurting cis girls too (and in larger numbers). People are really stupid.

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        Any anti-trans laws hurt all cis women period. I can’t believe they actually agree on mandatory genital exams for ALL girls who play sport. Madness.

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        I get the point you’re making, and it is true, but at the same time there’s a propensity for people to focus on how cis people are impacted by transphobic legislation in a way that tends to minimize the impact it has on the trans people its actually targeting. The reason these ballot measures are bad is because they’re discrimination and segregation of trans people. While cis girls will also be impacted by them, the anti-trans laws aren’t bad, they’re bad because trans kids are being barred from sports with their peers and from the necessary medical care they need.

        (Also this comment isn’t to attack you in any way, its just worth thinking about how stuff like this is talked about imo)

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          I agree with both of you - the real focus should be the damage to trans people, but the impact on cis girls is a valuable talking point that can make some people realize that they are hurting their own to spite the other.

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            An old quote: “never fight with an idiot, to hurt you they would also hurt themselves”

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      It’s going to take at least two decades to begin to fix the education issue that lead to that outcome

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    hey so uh… you dont have to be a republican to get the mandatory bottom surgery right? and its the magic conservative fear mongering kind where you walk out same day fully healed with a working pussy and ffs? cool cool. and which way to the pansexual orgies again?

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    Better not send the kids to school tomorrow, teachers can now determine whether they get sex change surgeries in the nurse’s office, depending on how they pee pee in the litter box set out in the middle of the classroom.

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    Ladies and gentlemen, and I don’t mean two groups of people, welcome to the new world order…

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    I know it’s a shit post but shitting on one voter group is not how you get them to change their vote

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      Yeah because they they are totally going to change their minds if approached with logical arguments and evidence.

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        seriously. no compromise with the fasch.

        there are rural non-fasch. nobody’s saying to disregard them. we can keep dog fuckers in the FBI and there’s no reason to make blowing shit up in the desert illegal. but do nothing FOR the fasch, or I am your enemy.

        and if you really want the fasch’s respect, you’ll get it by making your enemies suffer. if they aren’t your enemy, I am.

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          Eh… I don’t go this far.

          If someone wants to put efforts into rehabilitating fascists (Thinking of Daryl Davis as an obvious example) that’s their prerogative and its a net good.

          I just personally will not put in a single iota of effort into helping them rehabilitate. Its just not something I give a fuck about.

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            the bannons and musks need to be made examples of.

            for the everyday Nazi bitch who isn’t even upbon his Klan dues and mostly posts racist names to Facebook? we owe them nothing. their lives are forfeit. maybe we find it more rewarding to rehabilitate them. maybe we find it more rewarding to hunt them for sport. their wishes should not be a concern and I take offense at you suggesting otherwise.

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              for the everyday Nazi bitch who isn’t even upbon his Klan dues and mostly posts racist names to Facebook? we owe them nothing.

              I mean, sure.

              their lives are forfeit. maybe we find it more rewarding to rehabilitate them. maybe we find it more rewarding to hunt them for sport.

              Have at it in either case.

              their wishes should not be a concern and I take offense at you suggesting otherwise.

              I wasn’t suggesting that? Are you sure your read and understood my comment? It really just seems like you want to start bickering over nothing.

              I said that if someone wants to rehabilitate them, I say let them spend their time and energy doing that.

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      FUUUUUUUUUCK CONSERVATIVES

      We don’t want them. We want to leave them behind, where they belong.

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      It is though, actually.

      First off, reactionaries only respect strength. They perceive kindness and compromise as weakness, and reason as condescension. They’ll more likely respect you if you stand up to them directly. It’s an odd quirk of psychology, but it’s a real phenomenon. Also, some of them are just fighty, and if siding with the left means you have to be polite and passive, that can be a bigger ask than just getting them to change sides and directing it at the right people.

      Second, the hardcore reactionaries, the ones who believe shit like what this post is mocking, are mostly unreachable. The important thing is for the people who aren’t so deep into it to not get attracted to it or think of those things as reasonable concerns. Mocking those concerns and pointing out how cringe and weird they are is good for that.

      Honestly, it just comes down to normalization. The norm should be to laugh at shit like that, to push it to the fringe, not to respect it and act like it deserves a place in society.

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      fuck coddling the fasch. that has undermined shit globally for decades. it needs to end. give them nothing they want and tell them to eat free healthcare legal weed and my gaping swampy ass.

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      Obviously MAGA idiots haven’t been shit on enough. We need to point and laugh at them more to signal it’s uncool to be one. Fascists are the one minority I want to stuff back into the closet.

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      Pretty much no one changes their mind online, especially when you’re talking about cult shit like maga is. They need a personal connection to have any hope of changing, so making fun of them on the internet won’t change anything anyway.

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      There’s not only americans here and your maga shit has royally annoyed us for years so you just reap what you sow.