When it comes to British culture, the thing I’m most hung up on is their definition of “pudding“. As an American, this is what “pudding“ means to me:
But when the British use the word “pudding“ I have absolutely no goddamn idea what they mean. I have been trying to figure it out for decades, immersing myself in British culture, and I am no closer to figuring it out than I was when I started.
Is it a car? A breed of cow? A 15th century poet? A sweet sausage meat pie made with a crispy crust? A Welsh slur for immigrants? A sex act that was popular during the Victorian era? I have no fucking idea…
As another 'Murican, the way I understand it is that if it’s boiled or steamed inside of an animal intestine or stomach, that’s a pudding. And even if it’s fried later, it’s still a pudding. See: Black Pudding, a British blood pudding.
And if it’s only steamed, often wrapped in a cloth, it’s probably a desert.
In any case, if some British person offers you a “pudding” don’t ask questions you really don’t want the answer to. Just shut up and eat it. They ARE British after all. And if you really don’t want to risk it, ask if you can go to a curry shop instead. Blessed be the Indians who taught the Brits to cook at least one edible dish.
A chocolate mousse is whipped and much lighter and fluffier. It’s consistency is closer to that of a paste. Chocolate pudding is saucier and more gooey in texture. A mousse would be able to hold its form. A pudding certainly would not.
But they are very similar in both flavor and appearance
I think their pudding was introduced in food rationing during some war or another. To let the meat and such go farther, they made pudding from things like leftover bread and whatever.
The word pudding was around long before there was a Britain. It was much simpler back then. A pudding was anything you stuffed into an animal intestine or stomach and boiled the Hell out of it, (See: Holy Water).
At some point, when ingredients like eggs, sugar, and flour became common, the Brits kind of went off the rails and completely lost the whole thread as to just what is a pudding.
Yep the Scots have their famous Haggis boiled in a sheep’s stomach. It is impossible to make a real Haggis in the US, it’s not legal to sell such things as a sheep’s stomach because of food safety.
So, unless you make your own sheep’s stomach from scratch, we are stuck with canned Haggis in the US. Which is OK, but not the best. And to be honest, the Scots also have moved on to canned haggis since it a very time consuming dish to make.
I did have an authentic haggis at a restaurant in New York when I lived there. From what I understood, it was quite well prepared. I wasn’t the biggest fan of it. Although I did enjoy the experience from the perspective of discovery and new experience.
A scotch egg, on the other hand, is something I fucking adore. I’ve tried many times to make one on my own, only to fail horrifically many times.
They must have run out of words and got tired of borrowing them from other languages. Those who were still willing were all shipped to Australia? Sounds like a criminal act as far as the British are concerned.
I think this was during one of their cultural takeover luls, before they discovered a bunch of new foods and bugs. Maybe before Australia, but maybe before the Americas. Who the fuck knows.
Definitely during a period of a lot of disease and cousin-fucking, so 1000-1500AD. You know, when religion was very popular and science was not
Pudding is just dessert. Sometimes it’s a pudding you’d recognise as a pudding, sometimes it’s a bit of ice cream, other times it’s something ridiculous. It’s always dessert.
Yes, I was able to determine that within a few minutes. The frustration comes from the wide range of bizarre dishes that the Britons define as “dessert“. It could be literally anything I have previously listed, and a wide ranging manner of things I didn’t.
OK, but that leaves open everything the British might classify as “dessert”, which could be literally anything, including everything I listed previously
When it comes to British culture, the thing I’m most hung up on is their definition of “pudding“. As an American, this is what “pudding“ means to me:
But when the British use the word “pudding“ I have absolutely no goddamn idea what they mean. I have been trying to figure it out for decades, immersing myself in British culture, and I am no closer to figuring it out than I was when I started.
Is it a car? A breed of cow? A 15th century poet? A sweet sausage meat pie made with a crispy crust? A Welsh slur for immigrants? A sex act that was popular during the Victorian era? I have no fucking idea…
As another 'Murican, the way I understand it is that if it’s boiled or steamed inside of an animal intestine or stomach, that’s a pudding. And even if it’s fried later, it’s still a pudding. See: Black Pudding, a British blood pudding.
And if it’s only steamed, often wrapped in a cloth, it’s probably a desert.
In any case, if some British person offers you a “pudding” don’t ask questions you really don’t want the answer to. Just shut up and eat it. They ARE British after all. And if you really don’t want to risk it, ask if you can go to a curry shop instead. Blessed be the Indians who taught the Brits to cook at least one edible dish.
This doesn’t really answer any questions, but at least I’ll end up at a nice curry shop.
Always room for a little pud
It means desert.
Thanks for clearing that up
Oy luv das alot of puddn innit
Too right, meshugganah!
Edit: oi vs oy
Yup, accurate.
That’s a chocolate mousse.
A chocolate mousse is whipped and much lighter and fluffier. It’s consistency is closer to that of a paste. Chocolate pudding is saucier and more gooey in texture. A mousse would be able to hold its form. A pudding certainly would not.
But they are very similar in both flavor and appearance
I think their pudding was introduced in food rationing during some war or another. To let the meat and such go farther, they made pudding from things like leftover bread and whatever.
The word pudding was around long before there was a Britain. It was much simpler back then. A pudding was anything you stuffed into an animal intestine or stomach and boiled the Hell out of it, (See: Holy Water).
At some point, when ingredients like eggs, sugar, and flour became common, the Brits kind of went off the rails and completely lost the whole thread as to just what is a pudding.
Oh great, that only narrows it down to the last millennium or so, and the meat of nearly every beast, fish, and fowl.
So… Scotland?
Edit: I say! With these comments, I’m really being taken on a grand tour!
Yep the Scots have their famous Haggis boiled in a sheep’s stomach. It is impossible to make a real Haggis in the US, it’s not legal to sell such things as a sheep’s stomach because of food safety.
So, unless you make your own sheep’s stomach from scratch, we are stuck with canned Haggis in the US. Which is OK, but not the best. And to be honest, the Scots also have moved on to canned haggis since it a very time consuming dish to make.
I did have an authentic haggis at a restaurant in New York when I lived there. From what I understood, it was quite well prepared. I wasn’t the biggest fan of it. Although I did enjoy the experience from the perspective of discovery and new experience.
A scotch egg, on the other hand, is something I fucking adore. I’ve tried many times to make one on my own, only to fail horrifically many times.
I firmly believe there is some kind of witchcraft involved in making a Scotch egg. I can’t make them either.
ah, witchcraft… well, that explains it.
I can’t guarantee it isn’t any or all of those.
THAT’S WHAT’S SO FUCKING FRUSTRATING!
I’M PRETTY SURE IT’S ALL OF THESE! AND ALSO MORE THINGS!
They must have run out of words and got tired of borrowing them from other languages. Those who were still willing were all shipped to Australia? Sounds like a criminal act as far as the British are concerned.
I think this was during one of their cultural takeover luls, before they discovered a bunch of new foods and bugs. Maybe before Australia, but maybe before the Americas. Who the fuck knows.
Definitely during a period of a lot of disease and cousin-fucking, so 1000-1500AD. You know, when religion was very popular and science was not
Pudding is just dessert. Sometimes it’s a pudding you’d recognise as a pudding, sometimes it’s a bit of ice cream, other times it’s something ridiculous. It’s always dessert.
You’ve never heard of Black Pudding? Which is a blood pudding served with a full English breakfast?
I don’t think blood pudding is generally considered to be a dessert.
Yorkshire pudding could handle chocolate sauce with hundreds and thousands.
One of the rare non-dessert breakfast puddings
Yes, I was able to determine that within a few minutes. The frustration comes from the wide range of bizarre dishes that the Britons define as “dessert“. It could be literally anything I have previously listed, and a wide ranging manner of things I didn’t.
So… you’re angry about what a different culture considers dessert? Maybe don’t look into South Asian or East Asian desserts…
I don’t recall ever using the word “angry“ here…
And this isn’t about desserts; it’s about the British usage of the word “pudding”, as I clearly articulated. Try to keep up.
(oh, and if you’re gonna project your emotions onto me, don’t be so sloppy about it)
Edit: a thought occurs: there’s some nice grass outside. You should go and touch it. In the meantime: you’re blocked.
Edit: had to jump to an alt account just to pretend to read my mind? Who’s the “angry” one? Lol.
So you’re angry that other cultures have terminology you aren’t used to? Yeah, didn’t block my alt you fucking xenophobic fuck
The only one I know is the Christmas cake they agreed was so terrible they simply set it on fire.
I’m relatively certain that was the plot of a Hercule Poirot Christmas story told by Agatha Christie
Yep:
Pudding is dessert.
So it’s what you posted, plus every other sweet treat you might have after your tea.
What’s a yorkshire pudding?
A bowl of ice cream eaten in Leeds.
Tea being a code word for dinner, which probably does not involve any tea.
Dinner, when lunch, is not tea, but may well include tea.
OK, but that leaves open everything the British might classify as “dessert”, which could be literally anything, including everything I listed previously
Do you mean other nations don’t chase their meal of boiled meat and root vegetables with a delicious bowl of quail custard?
Baffling.