Archived copy is here: https://archive.is/DqZ6m

The article says this:

“Immediately withdraw from NATO’s integrated command and then, in stages, from the organization itself. Reject the tribute demanded by the United States of 5% of GDP devoted to defense spending,” read France Unbowed’s 222-page program.

However, France under Mélenchon would still provide assistance to European Union countries under EU treaties, the document added

Is Melenchon right? Is it better for the EU to be the organisation of mutual defence guarantees for Europe, rather than NATO?

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    22 hours ago

    Yes, Zelenskyy broke the treaty by invading Crimea in 2014 when he was still a comedian 🤡

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      22 hours ago

      Political battles and wars do not start this abruptly, thinking that anyone on the world stage would tolerate Putin waking up and taking over Crimea on a whim is either a misconception on your end or misplaced sarcasm. Crimea was invaded by russia due to the impeachement of the Viktor Yanukovych, which was illegal and overwhelmingly proven to be linked to US action. Furthermore, Russia had a naval base on the black sea that would have been reclaimed by the united states if the support of ukraine shifted to Nato following the impeachment of Yanukovych. It was a strategic necessity and a means of incentivizing ukraine to reconnect with Russia as an ally rather than attempt to side with NATO.

      Russia had retreated back into it’s borders in 2014 and just like with Finland and Austria, it respected surrounding nations borders as long as they did not engage in Nato expansionism.But to add one last point, Europeans are insane to the rest of the world when they think it rational to prefer the united states to Russia… Who between Russia and the US participated in 70+ assassination attempts of foreign politicians, undermined global peace and countries’ senses of agency and ruined Serbia, Afghanistan, Georgia, Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Venezuela? The last thing Russia needs is a regime change…

      As far as ukrainian journalists spoke of it, was politically motivated since Yanukovych was on good terms with Putin and part of the senate wanted to westernize if they had US backing to engage martially with Russia. Instead the US gave a solid year of military support and cut it s costs when came the time.

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        @Garfunkel @boonhet
        “Crimea was invaded by russia due to the impeachement of the Viktor Yanukovych” - Russia is not Ukraine’s policeman.
        “It was […] a means of incentivizing ukraine to reconnect with Russia as an ally” - OK so you’re a bot, right? You invade countries & murder their citizens because you want them as an “ally”! :blobamused:

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          Nay professor, not a bot, although maybe the more bot-like party between us is the one who internalizes political narratives without taking time to understand the pragmatic nature of these stories as seen from life inside of a western society. To hate Russia because Russia is evil is to be an absolute moron who fails to understand that power is a zero-sum game and your opponent is still very bitter about the fall of the USSR.

          But if one wishes to say… “use their heads”, maybe then we can understand that these stories are compelling because of self-interest and perception of ethnic superiority. But to get back to the commies and why you think they re evil, an invasion of a country to rescue a naval base from russia s perspective is a no-brainer especially if we remember the fight for control of afghanistan and east asia (from the 80s to 2010s) and the importance of access to the black sea. Russia had no desire to invade Crimea as long as it remained in diplomatic good terms with Ukraine, which it did for decades, shit took off when 'merican freedom came to rescue those poor opressed ukrainians, and the US fucked off when it saw that Russia committed to the war.

          But yeah about the ally part, yep. That s how nato has been doing it, ask the libyans maybe?